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Offline John

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #870 on: April 02, 2015, 12:55:56 PM »
His visit didn't bother that much. The same night she tweeted about Brunt.

516694464455528448|Mon Sep 29 21:02:14 +0000 2014|#mccann  Just noticed @skymartinbrunt  is following me, why Martin won't you investigate some of these facts and show neutrality ?

I believe Brenda, couldn't face the fact, that her family and neighbours found out what she was really like. Not the person she made out to be.

She put a brave face on it certainly but her underlying psychological condition proved too much for her to cope.  She needed counselling and not public condemnation.  The Press have much to atone for.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Benice

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #871 on: April 02, 2015, 12:57:43 PM »
You can blame Sky till the cows come home. It won't change the fact she made some vile tweets to others.
She asked Brunt to investigate some of some of these facts. He did what she asked.
Martin Brunt went off air, because of the abuse he was receiving from Brenda's so called friends. The ones that named her on Twitter and the Mail picked up.

What do you think of Poulton and friends behaviour at the inquest? That showed caring for Brenda's family, didn't it?

If Martin Brunt had behaved towards BL in the way Poulton and her chums behaved at the inquest - then that would have been a genuine reason for the criticism being levelled at him IMO.     However his approach to BL could not have been more opposite to Poulton's aggressive pursuit of a member of the public.

It's noticeable that people who express disgust at Martin Brunt for his actions - have no criticism at all for Poulton - and yet -  unlike MB -  she behaved in exactly the way they claim to find so obnoxious.     

The word  'hyprocritical' hardly seems to cover it.


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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #872 on: April 02, 2015, 01:03:39 PM »
Its what's called a 'contributing factor' in the trade and that's why Sky News had to have a change of underwear, why they went into legal overdrive and why Martin Brunt went off air.

In my view they were damn lucky to get away with being pilloried and vilified.
I've only seen Brunt vilified by a handful on the net...yes Brunt was a contributing factor...but not the cause...the cause was her mental illness

Offline John

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #873 on: April 02, 2015, 01:05:02 PM »
If Martin Brunt had behaved towards BL in the way Poulton and her chums behaved at the inquest - then that would have been a genuine reason for the criticism being levelled at him IMO.     However his approach to BL could not have been more opposite to Poulton's aggressive pursuit of a member of the public.

It's noticeable that people who express disgust at Martin Brunt for his actions - have no criticism at all for Poulton - and yet -  unlike MB -  she behaved in exactly the way they claim to find so obnoxious.     

The word  'hyprocritical' hardly seems to cover it.

That's not the case Benice, there is no excuse for any of that behaviour by any journalist whether it be Brunt stalking Brenda Leyland or Poulton pouring scorn on others at an inquest.  This is why we need real Laws to deal with the Press and not what we have at the moment.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #874 on: April 02, 2015, 01:12:44 PM »
I've only seen Brunt vilified by a handful on the net...yes Brunt was a contributing factor...but not the cause...the cause was her mental illness

No davel, according to her son it was Brunt and Sky News' actions which pushed her over the edge.  Brenda would most probably be alive today had they not set out to destroy her.


In fact remember this comment in which you claim she had broken the Law?  You got that wrong as well!


There is no defence in law that others are worse offenders.....Brenda appears to have broken the law...it was her choice to tweet 60 times a day...no one to blame but Brenda... I don't see the coroner putting the blame on anyone else

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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #875 on: April 02, 2015, 01:15:45 PM »
No davel, according to her son it was Brunt and Sky News' actions which pushed her over the edge.

Then why wait 5 days. How do we know her friend naming her, didn't push her over the edge?
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Offline John

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« Reply #876 on: April 02, 2015, 01:21:30 PM »
Then why wait 5 days. How do we know her friend naming her, didn't push her over the edge?

It all contributed certainly but you have to look at cause and effect.  What started the series of events which culminated in her death?
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« Reply #877 on: April 02, 2015, 01:27:19 PM »
It all contributed certainly but you have to look at cause and effect.  What started the series of events which culminated in her death?

Her Tweets. According to Bennett, Sky are doing a documentary about [ censored word ]s.
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Offline Jean-Pierre

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« Reply #878 on: April 02, 2015, 01:30:19 PM »
It all contributed certainly but you have to look at cause and effect.  What started the series of events which culminated in her death?

The sequence of events that culinated in her death started a long time before Brunt even heard of her. 

Offline Benice

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« Reply #879 on: April 02, 2015, 02:11:04 PM »
That's not the case Benice, there is no excuse for any of that behaviour by any journalist whether it be Brunt stalking Brenda Leyland or Poulton pouring scorn on others at an inquest.  This is why we need real Laws to deal with the Press and not what we have at the moment.

I certainly would not describe MB's behaviour as ''stalking'' - in fact for a reporter I thought he was very polite.

When it comes to changes in the law - where do you draw the line?

What about those people who are pounced upon by 'reporters' in programmes like Rogue Traders and the many other progs which expose people for behaving badly towards others.  Just like BL many of those people are not guilty of any criminal offence either  - just of being heartless unscrupulous bast....ds.

Are all these progs going to end now - on the strength that one of those horrible people might commit suicide when they find out they are going to be publicly exposed?

Should drawing the public's attention to bad behaviour which affects other people's lives be banned for fear that someone might commit suicide along the way?     

It's a big subject/problem.   I'm not sure what law can be passed to resolve it in a satisfactory way.

In the case of the internet I do think that if the 'owners' of these sites - Twitter for example were held more responsible for what their sites are being used for - and received a few hefty fines, they would not be so quick to turn a blind eye - in the way they appear to at the moment.   Maybe that is the area where laws could be strengthened or new laws introduced?


 
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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #880 on: April 02, 2015, 02:18:40 PM »
All brunt thought about was himself.

After all, why did he disappear from Sky for several weeks ?

Offline Brietta

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #881 on: April 02, 2015, 02:26:01 PM »
The standard of journalism in this country is abysmal. Much of it is cheap gossip or spin.

I don't know the exact quotations ... but isn't it a truism that as well as getting the government deserved people also get the press they deserve.

The current vogue in 'reality' TV would appear to reflect that as much as SUN headlines do.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

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« Reply #882 on: April 02, 2015, 02:27:05 PM »
I can't help wondering if there was more to it than being exposed by Martin Brunt,   she told him she had had a drink and had spoken to her son and that she was feeling better.

Why choose the other son's birthday to end her life?

Offline Brietta

Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #883 on: April 02, 2015, 02:30:00 PM »
That's not the case Benice, there is no excuse for any of that behaviour by any journalist whether it be Brunt stalking Brenda Leyland or Poulton pouring scorn on others at an inquest.  This is why we need real Laws to deal with the Press and not what we have at the moment.

Then Press Freedom is well and truly compromised aided and abetted by those who chose to exercise freedom while abrogating responsibility.
 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.
« Reply #884 on: April 02, 2015, 02:32:37 PM »
Its what's called a 'contributing factor' in the trade and that's why Sky News had to have a change of underwear, why they went into legal overdrive and why Martin Brunt went off air.

In my view they were damn lucky to get away with being pilloried and vilified.
As opposed to what?