Brenda Leyland. Coroner confirms cause of death as suicide.

[stephen25000]

I think you must search for a more compelling bottom line.

The late Brenda Leyland's tweets were a matter of public record.

What was a matter of public record was drawn to the attention of the police.

What happened thereafter (the coroner made clear) was a consequence of the strictly private and personal choices of Brenda Leyland.

I'm sure we all would have wished for a different and much more positive outcome; not least that BL was still with us and able to enjoy her life.

It wasn't to be ...

That advice can be equally applied to the mccanns, when they decided to leave their children alone and unprotected.

For that Madeleine paid the price.

[John]

A reminder to all posters on this thread.

The subject of Brenda's suicide (now confirmed by the coroner) is a sensitive one.  As such I would appreciate some sensitivity by both sides whilst discussing the various issues it raises.

I know some members are a bit uneasy discussing it but I feel the circumstances of what happened to her are very important and must be debated.  Please keep comments respectful and to the point.  TY

[Alice Purjorick]

What do the sceptics plan to do with their own dossier of supporters' "threatening" tweets?

Invade somewhere on the strength of it?

[G-Unit]

From another forum

I'm sorry that I don't post often, so am rather an outsider here, but I am concerned about a FB group which was ostensibly set up in memory of Brenda Leyland and purported to be supportive of her and her family - https://www.facebook.com/groups/523769381091778/?fref=ts

However, since the inquest, which they regard as a put up job and the whole thing a conspiracy, they appear now to be turning against Brenda and, in particular, her family - and in particular Ben. They say that any normal family/son would be shouting the injustice from the rooftops and, because he isn't, then clearly he cannot be who he says he is. They also say that the law firm he purports to work for doesn't exist in Los Angelese - which is true - strangely.

They have a theory, which appears to be popular, that Brenda never existed - the role played by Brenda when confronted by Martin Brunt, was played by Glenda Jackson (for those outside the UK you may not know that Glenda Jackson, a former actress, is a member of parliament in the UK). They are absolutely determined that the whole thing was a McCann conspiracy, to generate support for the grieving parents, and are working to the ends of proving this. Sadly, in the process, they are slagging off Brenda and her family.

I was a member there but have been banned for trying to correct some of their totally inaccurate statements - things which can be proved. It is not a democratic debate going on there - they don't want to hear from anyone who does not go along with their outrageous theories.

I just wondered if anyone here is also a member there and whether they are, consequently, able to inject some sanity into the so-called debate?

I'm sorry, again, but that website has upset me greatly.

Can't see anthing, it's a closed group. Thanks anyway. Is the above quote from another closed area?

[jassi]

Can't see anthing, it's a closed group. Thanks anyway. Is the above quote from another closed area?

Its from a site called 'Missing Madeleine'  A place I visit periodically - no idea if it is a closed site or not.

[Eleanor]

Can't see anthing, it's a closed group. Thanks anyway. Is the above quote from another closed area?

The above quote is not from a closed area.  But it does come from someone who was a member of another closed Forum before she was banned for disagreeing with the content.

[Alfred R Jones]

A reminder to all posters on this thread.

The subject of Brenda's suicide (now confirmed by the coroner) is a sensitive one.  As such I would appreciate some sensitivity by both sides whilst discussing the various issues it raises.

I know some members are a bit uneasy discussing it but I feel the circumstances of what happened to her are very important and must be debated.  Please keep comments respectful and to the point.  TY

Kid gloves for Brenda, but be as scathing as you like re the family of a missing child.  Sure thing.

[DCI]

Its from a site called 'Missing Madeleine'  A place I visit periodically - no idea if it is a closed site or not.

Don't you post there, Jassi?

[jassi]

Yes, now and again, though I consider this a much superior forum.

[DCI]

Can't see anthing, it's a closed group. Thanks anyway. Is the above quote from another closed area?

It isn't a closed group GU. The person seemed quite upset.

"Some wise words, thank you! It just upsets me that a group set up in honour of Brenda has turned so against her and her son in particular - poor man. It's horrible! I've no choice as to whether I stay away unfortunately! But in a free world I would expect free speech - which, at the end of the day, is exactly what Brenda was standing up for. The minute I didn't agree with them - that was it - I was out! They hadn't even heard of Hacked Off! Honestly! And they have convinced themselves that they will 'crack it'!"

[Lyall]

Kid gloves for Brenda, but be as scathing as you like re the family of a missing child.  Sure thing.

Well that would be because she's dead, and you can hardly criticise a FB group for apparently disrespecting Brenda's family and then do the same yourselves by nudge-nudge, wink-wink comparing her to a convicted fraudster (or whatever it was she was convicted for). Can you?

You're saying posters in a far-flung area of the internet ought to be respecting Brenda's family. Well so should you guys.

[Mr Gray]

Well that would be because she's dead, and you can hardly criticise a FB group for apparently disrespecting Brenda's family and then do the same yourselves by nudge-nudge, wink-wink comparing her to a convicted fraudster (or whatever it was she was convicted for). Can you?

You're saying posters in a far-flung area of the internet ought to be respecting Brenda's family. Well so should you guys.

so Brunt musn't doorstep Brenda because she's fragile and we mustn't criticise Brenda because she committed suicide...but it's ok to criticise the McCanns...Fortunately you don't make the rules and I will say what I like within the rules of the forum. I certainly will not be anywhere near as abusive as Brenda or use any of the bad language she used

[Alfred R Jones]

Well that would be because she's dead, and you can hardly criticise a FB group for apparently disrespecting Brenda's family and then do the same yourselves by nudge-nudge, wink-wink comparing her to a convicted fraudster (or whatever it was she was convicted for). Can you?

You're saying posters in a far-flung area of the internet ought to be respecting Brenda's family. Well so should you guys.

Perhaps you'd like to show me where and how I have disrespected Brenda or her family?

[faithlilly]

and now Winjoy who posted the above

The group is closed. Do you have any evidence other than a poster's word that this is happening ?

[Mr Gray]

The group is closed. Do you have any evidence other than a poster's word that this is happening ?

do you think she is lying