Is there any hard evidence whatsoever in the Madeleine McCann case?

[slartibartfast]

Oh LOL, Bend it like Beckham has taken on a new meaning.

If anyone ever wanted to discount JT as a witness, this is the way to do it.

[pegasus]

A burglar could have ... thinking the occupants were all out, lifted the shutter and opened the window.  Realising he had just disturbed a young child he panicks and scarpers.  The scared ....

Precisely. And I had thought no-one else could see this. But you can.
A complete solution of the first room in one line.

[mercury]

If anyone ever wanted to discount JT as a witness, this is the way to do it.

Doesn't help anyone or anything does it?

[Brietta]

If anyone ever wanted to discount JT as a witness, this is the way to do it.

Who wants to discount Jane Tanner as a witness ... apart from those who called her liar for years? 

As far as SY are concerned she is a credible witness and I think that opinion carries a lot of weight.

Pity it took six years after the event for competent investigation to tie up two witness statements and crèche records into the resolution which allowed progression to other pieces of evidence to be checked in their turn.

One wonders what other evidence was overlooked as this so obviously was.

[mercury]

Precisely. And I had thought no-one else could see this. But you can.
A complete solution of the first room in one line.

How is it complete when there is no way of knowing if the window was left open? And thus able to be slid open from outside? IIRC Kate Mccann said in one of her statements the window was shut.

[sadie]

How is it complete when there is no way of knowing if the window was left open? And thus able to be slid open from outside? IIRC Kate Mccann said in one of her statements the window was shut.

Oh mercury, I dont believe it.

Maybe you are new to the scene, but Kate says that the window was shut when they went out.  When she came back, it was open.  Dont you remember Kate saying about the door slamming and the curtains whooshing?  The window had to be open for that.

[pegasus]

How is it complete when there is no way of knowing if the window was left open? And thus able to be slid open from outside? IIRC Kate Mccann said in one of her statements the window was shut.

The statements of both the adult tenants say they do not know whether the window was locked or not.
 

[mercury]

The statements of both the adult tenants say they do not know whether the window was locked or not.

A window can be unlocked but not open.

[misty]

The statements of both the adult tenants say they do not know whether the window was locked or not.

I cannot see that the white net curtain in the children's room was ever tested for DNA. Do you have a link which proves otherwise?

[pegasus]

A window can be unlocked but not open.

Yes certainly this bedroom window can be fully shut and completely unlocked.

[pegasus]

I cannot see that the white net curtain in the children's room was ever tested for DNA. Do you have a link which proves otherwise?

I don't know whether it was tested.

[slartibartfast]

Who wants to discount Jane Tanner as a witness ... apart from those who called her liar for years? 

As far as SY are concerned she is a credible witness and I think that opinion carries a lot of weight.

Pity it took six years after the event for competent investigation to tie up two witness statements and crèche records into the resolution which allowed progression to other pieces of evidence to be checked in their turn.

One wonders what other evidence was overlooked as this so obviously was.

The more her story changes the less it can be trusted.

[pegasus]

The fingerprint forensics are hard evidence.
(i've used them to make an opinion that the witness who said the window was already open is telling the truth).
Also the photographs taken that night by the PJ of all the rooms and balcony are hard evidence.

[mercury]

Yes certainly this bedroom window can be fully shut and completely unlocked.

According to Kate Mccann the window was closed, as it had been all week, so how did the intruder open it from outside?

[Alice Purjorick]

According to Kate Mccann the window was closed, as it had been all week, so how did the intruder open it from outside?

As I understand it with a CDA.