Does the Madeleine McCann case warrant a Public Inquiry?

[Angelo222]

What do you mean by "a proper inquiry"? Led by whom and what for?

My notion of a proper inquiry would be one which has sufficient far reaching powers to look into the finances of all those involved in this conspiracy because on so many levels this was a conspiracy to defeat the ends of justice.

[Carana]

There is a money trail associated with the McCanns right down to Correia and lawyer John Grade was good enough to fill in those extra blanks you conveniently forget to mention.

João Grade? Cite, please?

[Alfred R Jones]

My notion of a proper inquiry would be one which has sufficient far reaching powers to look into the finances of all those involved in this conspiracy because on so many levels this was a conspiracy to defeat the ends of justice.

What libellous nonsense are you spouting now?

[Angelo222]

João Grade? Cite, please?

Its all there in the Cipriano board, I suggest you search it.

[Angelo222]

What libellous nonsense are you spouting now?

Truth is not libel.  A full blown police enquiry into all the activities of these Spanish criminals masquerading as private investigators is long overdue as is the Oakley International one.  Why has the Oakley dossier never been made public?  Who has got so much to hide?

[Mr Gray]

Truth is not libel.  A full blown police enquiry into all the activities of these Spanish criminals masquerading as private investigators is long overdue.

the fact that it is not happening shows how unimportant it is. Portugal has enough fraud trials at the moment with Socrates, christaveo and god knows who else

[Carana]

Its all there in the Cipriano board, I suggest you search it.

A clue, perhaps, to a source that doesn't come from a tabloid / blog of dubious repute?

[Angelo222]

A clue, perhaps, to a source that doesn't come from a tabloid / blog of dubious repute?

That's the point isn't it, let's have the police investigate them all and get to the truth of it.  If the Correio da Manha  is printing lies then they can be dealt with too.

[Alfred R Jones]

Truth is not libel.  A full blown police enquiry into all the activities of these Spanish criminals masquerading as private investigators is long overdue as is the Oakley International one.  Why has the Oakley dossier never been made public?  Who has got so much to hide?

Your previous post seemed to be implicating the directors of the Madeleine Fund - are you saying they are involved in some conspiracy?

[Angelo222]

In case anyone missed it.


Extract from SIC magazine
15 February 2009

Leonor Cipriano was defended during the entire PJ torture investigation by the lawyer João Grade dos Santos but, "on the eve of the start of trial, the client waived the services of the lawyer,"

Acting on behalf of the McCanns, Método 3, tried to recruit Leonor Cipriano's lawyer, João Grade dos Santos, explaining that his help would be very helpful to their investigations, given the similarities between the two cases.  Método 3 stated that "spending money was no problem" and pulled to the fore the theme "Gonçalo Amaral".  Only months later, having already refused to work for the Spanish agency, Grade realized that Método 3 had their own "agenda".  This "agenda" was, according to SIC, to get a lawyer to put Gonçalo Amaral "out of operation", since, in both cases, the detective seemed to want the same: the culpability of the parents.

Faced with the refusal of João Grade dos Santos, Método 3 approached another lawyer - the young Marcos Aragão Correia, who came to participate in searches of Madeleine as a medium and subsequently became involved in investigations related to the Joana case, eventually being engaged to defend Leonor Cipriano in the trial against the five inspectors from Faro.


Read it for yourself here.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3500.msg133640#msg133640


Detective agency who sought Maddie recruited attorney to "burn" Gonçalo Amaral in the case Joana Cipriano.

www.translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&prev=/search%3Fq%3Djo%25C3%25A3o%2Bgrade%2Bdos%2Bsantos%26client%3Dms-opera-mobile%26channel%3Dnew&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=pt-BR&u=http://www.publico.pt/sociedade/noticia/agencia-de-detectives-que-procurou-maddie-recrutou-advogado-para-queimar-goncalo-amaral-no-caso-joana-cipriano-1365298&usg=ALkJrhhJNIHRHgclmFddOk-JmvQpgK448w

[Carana]

My notion of a proper inquiry would be one which has sufficient far reaching powers to look into the finances of all those involved in this conspiracy because on so many levels this was a conspiracy to defeat the ends of justice.

- What conspiracy?
- To defeat justice about what?

Surely not the "truth" as asserted by a former coordinator in the first months of the investigation who appears to have "misunderstood" or "forgotten" details about just about every major point in the investigation... and that during his tenure, let alone following the final analysis after the files were released?

[Alfred R Jones]

In case anyone missed it.


Extract from SIC magazine
15 February 2009

Leonor Cipriano was defended during the entire PJ torture investigation by the lawyer João Grade dos Santos but, "on the eve of the start of trial, the client waived the services of the lawyer,"

Acting on behalf of the McCanns, Método 3, tried to recruit Leonor Cipriano's lawyer, João Grade dos Santos, explaining that his help would be very helpful to their investigations, given the similarities between the two cases.  Método 3 stated that "spending money was no problem" and pulled the fore the theme "Gonçalo Amaral".  Only months later, having already refused to work for the Spanish agency, Grade realized that Método 3 had their own "agenda".  This "agenda" was, according to SIC, to get a lawyer to put Gonçalo Amaral "out of operation", since, in both cases, the detective seemed to want the same: the culpability of the parents.

Faced with the refusal of João Grade dos Santos, Método 3 approached another lawyer - the young Marcos Aragão Correia, who came to participate in searches of Madeleine as a medium and subsequently became involved in investigations related to the Joana case, eventually being engaged to defend Leonor Cipriano in the trial against the five inspectors from Faro.


Read it for yourself here.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3500.msg133640#msg133640

Out of interest why are you, as a moderator, deliberately avoiding the swear filter on this forum in order to write an "offensive" word?  Why have you chosen to have a dig at the mother of a missing child with every single post you make?

ETA - when I chose Tucking Fosser as my sig line it was removed because it was "offensive" - such double standards are hard to understand... 

[Carana]

In case anyone missed it.


Extract from SIC magazine
15 February 2009

Leonor Cipriano was defended during the entire PJ torture investigation by the lawyer João Grade dos Santos but, "on the eve of the start of trial, the client waived the services of the lawyer,"

Acting on behalf of the McCanns, Método 3, tried to recruit Leonor Cipriano's lawyer, João Grade dos Santos, explaining that his help would be very helpful to their investigations, given the similarities between the two cases.  Método 3 stated that "spending money was no problem" and pulled the fore the theme "Gonçalo Amaral".  Only months later, having already refused to work for the Spanish agency, Grade realized that Método 3 had their own "agenda".  This "agenda" was, according to SIC, to get a lawyer to put Gonçalo Amaral "out of operation", since, in both cases, the detective seemed to want the same: the culpability of the parents.

Faced with the refusal of João Grade dos Santos, Método 3 approached another lawyer - the young Marcos Aragão Correia, who came to participate in searches of Madeleine as a medium and subsequently became involved in investigations related to the Joana case, eventually being engaged to defend Leonor Cipriano in the trial against the five inspectors from Faro.


Read it for yourself here.

www.miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3500.msg133640#msg133640

I can't find any plausible reason why Correia is anything but a loose cannon.

The implication would be that he had been instructed to defend Leonor and not João... how much sense does that make?

[Carana]

That's the point isn't it, let's have the police investigate them all and get to the truth of it.  If the Correio da Manha  is printing lies then they can be dealt with too.

How do you know that the police haven't done? Because it hasn't been leaked to tabloids?

As a well-known former coordinator has said, somewhat ironically, "justice works in secret".

You don't have a problem with that, do you, Angelo?

[Angelo222]

I can't find any plausible reason why Correia is anything but a loose cannon.

The implication would be that he had been instructed to defend Leonor and not João... how much sense does that make?

His job was to destroy Amaral, the Ciprianos were just convenient stooges.