The Quality of Witnesses in the Case.

[mercury]

Darling the only one protesting is you

You also need to prove statements have "gone missing" as if they were there in the first place

[sadie]

Darling the only one protesting is you

You also need to prove statements have "gone missing" as if they were there in the first place

Dearest,

My voice counts, the same as yours.



http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MISSING_PAGES.htm

N.B.  I have included all the missing files from people staying at Ocean Club.   
These are the only files that could have placed Gerry searching at 10pm, or have given the time the searching began


Note: Pages 293 - 300 are missing from the DVD.
 
Further documents missing from the DVD.  WITH THANKS TO INES
 
Statements missing from UK holiday makers:



Stephen Carpenter
Original statement taken on 17th May 2007 by a UK Police Officer:

Stephen Carpenter original

Rajinder Balu.
Rogatory statement refers to ?original statements?:

Rajinder Balu. original

Neil Berry
Rogatory statement refers to ?original statement?:

Neil Berry original


Carolyn Carpenter
Rogatory interview not included in DVD:

2. Page 18 Interview Carolyn Elizabeth CARPENTER, she was interviewed on 21st April 2008, the interview was recorded on DVD, please see enclosed 1 copy of the transcript, 1 copy of the DVD, 1 copy of her statement and a copy of the
Detective's statement evidencing the interview.

Carolyn Carpenter page 18

 


So, the ONLY missing files from British holidaymakers actually staying at Ocean Club, are those which COULD HAVE PROVED that Gerry WAS searching at about 10pm.   Something that is much disputed by some who have no actual knowledge .... but prefer to guess.

Big co-incidence that only those files are missing, dont you think?

[Brietta]

There are lots of "missing" statements in the files....I doubt any have "deliberately" gone "missing"

It is perplexing though why some statements are there and others aren't but I think you're in danger of jumping to conclusions by considering it a conspiracy, I would hedge my bets on human errors and maybe as G Unit told me on another thread, its up to the ukca what was sent to Portugal.

And how you came to the conclusion that certain statements were "hidden" just to hide the fact that Gerald Mccann was out searchng for his child is beyond me. People are normally too busy to spend their days being Machiavellians.

Eta

I don't see how Stephen Carpenter's statement can be taken in any bad light whatsoever, so perplexed there too

As far as Stephen Carpenter's statement of what he witnessed goes it is fine. As far as what he said about what Mrs Carpenter witnessed ... that is hearsay.
I am surprised you are unable to make that differentiation.

It has always been known that some information has been withheld from publication because of its sensitivity; one doubts if Mrs Carpenter's statement falls into that category.

Is it your assertion that ukca were selective in the witness interviews forwarded to the lead authority? I doubt it ... but I guess that only Levy would be able to inform us of exactly what his editorial position may have been at the time ... then would we be able to believe a word of what he has to say?


17 Processos Vol XVII Pages 4692 - 4706
WITH THANKS TO INES
4692 to 4706 - Letter to the Tribunal from lawyers acting for ACPO
Letter from lawyers representing British police forces requesting that certain documentation from UK police files be withheld from the DVD for public release.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MISSING_PAGES.htm

[G-Unit]

It is strange. I can't find any rogatory requests from Portugal for the Carpenters to be interviewed, but they were. It seems clear that the PJ have Neil Berry and Raj Balu's first statements as they refer to them in the rogatory requests, but they haven't made them public, just their rogatory interviews.

[Brietta]

It is strange. I can't find any rogatory requests from Portugal for the Carpenters to be interviewed, but they were. It seems clear that the PJ have Neil Berry and Raj Balu's first statements as they refer to them in the rogatory requests, but they haven't made them public, just their rogatory interviews.

The files can't tell us everything and sometimes snippets are dispersed throughout ... for example, logic tells us that former occupants of the apartment would have their DNA taken, but that is not mentioned in their witness statements, it is however confirmed in Lowe's report as are the samples taken from Berry and Balu.

[jassi]

I wonder how far back with previous occupants the police would need to go before they were sure they hadn't 'missed' anyone ?

[DCI]

The files can't tell us everything and sometimes snippets are dispersed throughout ... for example, logic tells us that former occupants of the apartment would have their DNA taken, but that is not mentioned in their witness statements, it is however confirmed in Lowe's report as are the samples taken from Berry and Balu.

Actually makes you wonder how often that apartment was cleaned, or bedding washed.

After every Tom, dick and Harry trapsed in and out after the McCanns were moved. 3/4 family's stayed in the apartment. The Saliva found on bedding, from one of these families. Yet we are led to believe only Kates prints were found, 3 months later.

[G-Unit]

Nobody on here is more busy than I am at the moment.


It is VERY STRANGE that the only statements that could prove that Gerry WAS SEARCHING, have gone missing



All three of them !

Only three and they have all gone !  Few others are missing out of a multitude, but the only three that help Gerry ARE MISSING.


What is wrong with pointing that out?


You protesteth too much, it seems to me. £4%4%

Caroline Carpenter went home at 9.30pm with her husband. Don't suppose she saw Gerald at all, searching or not.
Raj Balu rogatory;

After 22:00 we were still sitting on the veranda in the Berry apartment. We heard noises downstairs and afterwards found out that a child had disappeared. My testimony dated 6th of May 2007 related the details of the conversation we overheard and the information regarding the paper that Neil and I used in the searches. I cannot add any more details save those which have already been given in this testimony.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RAJ_BALU.htm

[G-Unit]

Actually makes you wonder how often that apartment was cleaned, or bedding washed.

After every Tom, dick and Harry trapsed in and out after the McCanns were moved. 3/4 family's stayed in the apartment. The Saliva found on bedding, from one of these families. Yet we are led to believe only Kates prints were found, 3 months later.

Saliva on the bedding was from a previous occupant. Fingerprints were taken on the night, not three months alter. I thought you had the files (the real ones)?

[faithlilly]

Saliva on the bedding was from a previous occupant. Fingerprints were taken on the night, not three months alter. I thought you had the files (the real ones)?

If she had she'd be able to provide proof of the note that stated the McCanns and their friends were leaving their children in the apartment, as mentioned by Kate in her book.

[G-Unit]

If she had she'd be able to provide proof of the note that stated the McCanns and their friends were leaving their children in the apartment, as mentioned by Kate in her book.

I'll never understand why people claim to 'know' things and then don't deliver. What's the point?

[Brietta]

Saliva on the bedding was from a previous occupant. Fingerprints were taken on the night, not three months alter. I thought you had the files (the real ones)?

Don't think I would be too happy sleeping in bedding that had not been washed after a previous occupant and I have commented on the paucity of fingerprints lifted by the technician on the 4th.

One wonders at the undue haste with which the apartment was allowed to be let out to other occupants.

[faithlilly]

I'll never understand why people claim to 'know' things and then don't deliver. What's the point?

Me neither. Perhaps DCI will come up with the goods yet but if past experience is anything to go by I very much doubt it.

[G-Unit]

Don't think I would be too happy sleeping in bedding that had not been washed after a previous occupant and I have commented on the paucity of fingerprints lifted by the technician on the 4th.

One wonders at the undue haste with which the apartment was allowed to be let out to other occupants.

I wonder how many times we have haha. It's like posh restaurants; the things that go on behind the scenes would make your hair curl. Tip; if you leave food salt it heavily so it can't be re-used! I think they fingerprinted mainly the window & patio doors, didn't they, entrance and exit points.

[sadie]

I wonder how many times we have haha. It's like posh restaurants; the things that go on behind the scenes would make your hair curl. Tip; if you leave food salt it heavily so it can't be re-used! I think they fingerprinted mainly the window & patio doors, didn't they, entrance and exit points.

Didn't they finger print the front door?  The obvious way in.

And how about the patio door to the Mccanns bedroom.  Didn't they fingerprint them?



Shoddy work if they didn't