Former PJ inspector Paulo Pereira Cristovao arrested for armed robbery.

[faithlilly]

you'd revel in it though wouldn't you?

Sorry to disappoint you Alfie but no.

[Alfie]

Sorry to disappoint you Alfie but no.

I find that very difficult to believe.

[ShiningInLuz]

you are way too sensitive and defensive when it comes to Portugal or anything or anyone Portuguese, in my most humble opinion.

Not that I would wish to impugn your reputation, but if you think a criminal gang operating in Lisbon means something relevant to the Algarve, you need to make the link.

It has nothing to do with all of Portugal, so I cannot possibly be defending Portugal, and it is clear I am not defending anyone Portuguese, so we can dispose with that piece of nonsense.

I am getting the sense that McCann supporters think confusion is good.  What is the relevance to Madeleine's disappearance of crimes committed near Lisbon?

[Alice Purjorick]

Not that I would wish to impugn your reputation, but if you think a criminal gang operating in Lisbon means something relevant to the Algarve, you need to make the link.

It has nothing to do with all of Portugal, so I cannot possibly be defending Portugal, and it is clear I am not defending anyone Portuguese, so we can dispose with that piece of nonsense.

I am getting the sense that McCann supporters think confusion is good.  What is the relevance to Madeleine's disappearance of crimes committed near Lisbon?

It is the ubiquitous tentacles of the criminal masterminds ruling Portugal?
The perpetual use of logical fallacy on the basis that posters and visitors alike are too bleedin' stupid to notice?.
Laying smoke?
My purse is on the latter. It is all that's left to them with Cristovao.

[misty]

Not that I would wish to impugn your reputation, but if you think a criminal gang operating in Lisbon means something relevant to the Algarve, you need to make the link.

It has nothing to do with all of Portugal, so I cannot possibly be defending Portugal, and it is clear I am not defending anyone Portuguese, so we can dispose with that piece of nonsense.

I am getting the sense that McCann supporters think confusion is good.  What is the relevance to Madeleine's disappearance of crimes committed near Lisbon?

I believe you are asking the wrong question, SIL. The relevant question is "What relevance did Madeleine's disappearance have for an ex-PJ inspector based in Lisbon whose main role was reportedly investigating Eastern European mafias & who played no part in the original "secret" investigation?

[ShiningInLuz]

I believe you are asking the wrong question, SIL. The relevant question is "What relevance did Madeleine's disappearance have for an ex-PJ inspector based in Lisbon whose main role was reportedly investigating Eastern European mafias & who played no part in the original "secret" investigation?

If that is his CV, why is any link being made to Madeleine?

[Eleanor]

Why did Cristovao write a book about Madeleine?

[ShiningInLuz]

Why did Cristovao write a book about Madeleine?

I've read it, and IMO it is c**p.

Is that the link?

Please do have a merry Christmas, Eleanor.  Mine is duck in cherry sauce, with a home-baked gingerbread man.  I have no idea what is traditional in your region, but I sincerely hope your Christmas is one to be enjoyed.

[Mr Gray]

I've read it, and IMO it is c**p.

Is that the link?

Please do have a merry Christmas, Eleanor.  Mine is duck in cherry sauce, with a home-baked gingerbread man.  I have no idea what is traditional in your region, but I sincerely hope your Christmas is one to be enjoyed.

The question is why did he write a book about maddie

[Alfie]

Not that I would wish to impugn your reputation, but if you think a criminal gang operating in Lisbon means something relevant to the Algarve, you need to make the link.

It has nothing to do with all of Portugal, so I cannot possibly be defending Portugal, and it is clear I am not defending anyone Portuguese, so we can dispose with that piece of nonsense.

I am getting the sense that McCann supporters think confusion is good.  What is the relevance to Madeleine's disappearance of crimes committed near Lisbon?

I have made a straight forward observation that IMO you are very sensitive and defensive about Portugal and all things Portuguese, particularly when you perceive them to be under attack from McCann supporters.  Feel free to disagree but don't forget that all opinions on this forum are supposedly equally valid.  I have already pointed out what the link is between this vile individual and the McCann case, it is the height of disingenuity (or stupidity) to pretend one doesn't exist. 

Merry Christmas by the way.

[ShiningInLuz]

I have made a straight forward observation that IMO you are very sensitive and defensive about Portugal and all things Portuguese, particularly when you perceive them to be under attack from McCann supporters.  Feel free to disagree but don't forget that all opinions on this forum are supposedly equally valid.  I have already pointed out what the link is between this vile individual and the McCann case, it is the height of disingenuity (or stupidity) to pretend one doesn't exist. 

Merry Christmas by the way.

I have no problem with other people's opinion.

When someone connects criminal gangs in Lisbon with criminality in the Algarve I have a problem that the dots don't join up.  I might as well throw in the Kray twins and hope that there is some sort of weird connection.  Perhaps they look like the Smithman e-fits.

Merry Christmas Alfie.  I hope that you and your loved ones have both a memorable and enjoyable Christmas.

[Eleanor]

I've read it, and IMO it is c**p.

Is that the link?

Please do have a merry Christmas, Eleanor.  Mine is duck in cherry sauce, with a home-baked gingerbread man.  I have no idea what is traditional in your region, but I sincerely hope your Christmas is one to be enjoyed.

Thank you, Shining, you too.

I am in the middle of my usual nervous breakdown, trying to cook stuff to take to a party I don't really want to go to, but can't get out of, and can't drink at because I have to drive.

The only real tradition is that Noel is celebrated on Christmas Eve here.  Christmas Day for me will be Roast Duck Slices that I managed to pick up at half price from Intermarche.  Probably covered in home made Quince Jam.  So snap for Duck.
Making the Quince Jam was jolly hard work, but so worth the effort.

[ShiningInLuz]

Thank you, Shining, you too.

I am in the middle of my usual nervous breakdown, trying to cook stuff to take to a party I don't really want to go to, but can't get out of, and can't drink at because I have to drive.

The only real tradition is that Noel is celebrated on Christmas Eve here.  Christmas Day for me will be Roast Duck Slices that I managed to pick up at half price from Intermarche.  Probably covered in home made Quince Jam.  So snap for Duck.
Making the Quince Jam was jolly hard work, but so worth the effort.

I appreciate that a recipe for quince jam is probably off-topic, but would you do me the favour of sending me a PM with the instructions? Being the sad bar***stuard that I am, yes it is Madeleine related, but I am actually looking for recipes for when we move house.

Is there such a thing as Eleanor's quince jam?

[Eleanor]

I appreciate that a recipe for quince jam is probably off-topic, but would you do me the favour of sending me a PM with the instructions? Being the sad bar***stuard that I am, yes it is Madeleine related, but I am actually looking for recipes for when we move house.

Is there such a thing as Eleanor's quince jam?

This will be the longest PM I will ever send.  Do you want the recipe for Quince Jelly as well?

You see, I do believe that Cristovao is related to Madeleine.  He was the one who made up the story about Kate and six dead bodies which caused endless speculation and trouble.  Although to be fair to him he did present his book as some sort of fiction, sort of.  Probably trying to avoid accusations of Libel.

But I do worry about his motives since he wasn't supposed to know anything much about the case.

[stephen25000]

This will be the longest PM I will ever send.  Do you want the recipe for Quince Jelly as well?

You see, I do believe that Cristovao is related to Madeleine.  He was the one who made up the story about Kate and six dead bodies which caused endless speculation and trouble.  Although to be fair to him he did present his book as some sort of fiction, sort of.  Probably trying to avoid accusations of Libel.

But I do worry about his motives since he wasn't supposed to know anything much about the case.

I trust you can provide the proof that he made up the 6 body story.