The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?

[Alice Purjorick]

The Met and the McCanns have both said that the latter are being kept in the loop by the former re developments, but no doubt you sneer at this.

Why would I sneer at it?
I would take the pragmatic view that cops as always will tell folk only that which they want them to know and that which is expedient. That does not mean they are telling every last detail.
RTFM and RTFSPS; sound advice.

[G-Unit]

Others have had the same number of viewings, I think if someone's looking for the programme they type it in and click on the first one they see?

Crimewatch UK - October 2013 Madeleine Mccann Special
by TG4L0
1 year ago107,276 views
In a world exclusive, Scotland Yard detectives reveal their latest findings in the search for Madeleine McCann.

[Alfred R Jones]

Others have had the same number of viewings, I think if someone's looking for the programme they type it in and click on the first one they see?

Crimewatch UK - October 2013 Madeleine Mccann Special
by TG4L0
1 year ago107,276 views
In a world exclusive, Scotland Yard detectives reveal their latest findings in the search for Madeleine McCann.

That is completely beside the point.  The point is the OFM chose to put that video on its own youtube channel and it has been seen there 93,000 times.  The point is - if the McCanns were actively against this programme and / or the e-fits they would hardly be wanting to promote it on their youtube channel and via their FB page. 

[Alfred R Jones]

Alfred - you still haven't withdrawn your comment about the OFM site being 'dormant.'

It isn't - it has had two significant changes to it in recent times, which is reasonable considering it isn't an interactive site reliant on new content, but rather an informational site with a stable fundraising section.

“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” ― Abraham Lincoln

Define "recent times" - 2 changes in the last week or month and I'll retract my claim of "essentially dormant".  2 changes in the last six months or year and the comment stands.

[Gadfly2.1]

Since 2011, there have been just over a dozen updates to this site.  That's roughly the pace of around 3 a year.

In December 2013, 2 months after the CW special, the e-fits were removed from the site.

In January 2014, the commentary concerning Tannerman was updated to infer that SY may well be wrong.

There have been other updates (in the plural) since.

This was the old splash.



You're right Alfred in the sense that activity has shifted to facebook, but looking at it, much of that activity does not relate to the investigation.  Such as:



Of course, that is a noble appeal - and of course, if the McCanns are behind that, well played to them.  I have no doubt that the pain of losing their daughter drives them on to do good deeds.

[Alfred R Jones]

Since 2011, there have been just over a dozen updates to this site.  That's roughly the pace of around 3 a year.

In December 2013, 2 months after the CW special, the e-fits were removed from the site.

In January 2014, the commentary concerning Tannerman was updated to infer that SY may well be wrong.

There have been other updates (in the plural) since.

This was the old splash.



You're right Alfred in the sense that activity has shifted to facebook, but looking at it, much of that activity does not relate to the investigation.  Such as:



Of course, that is a noble appeal - and of course, if the McCanns are behind that, well played to them.

An average of 3 updates a year clearly illustrates that the OFM site is essentially dormant as I stated.  Compare this activity with the FB page which is very active by comparison, most of the activity centres around keeping Madeleine uppermost in people's thoughts.

[mercury]

That is completely beside the point.  The point is the OFM chose to put that video on its own youtube channel and it has been seen there 93,000 times.  The point is - if the McCanns were actively against this programme and / or the e-fits they would hardly be wanting to promote it on their youtube channel and via their FB page.

Fact remains they made not a squeak about the efits for years before Crimewatch brought them to the public's attention...reason?

[Alfred R Jones]

Fact remains they made not a squeak about the efits for years before Crimewatch brought them to the public's attention...reason?

No idea.

[Gadfly2.1]

Dormant implies a significant slowing down.  It hasn't.

But interestingly - the one time it wasn't dormant (under your definition) was when it came to the Crimewatch photos.  Quickly on, quickly off. 

And Alfred, you may wish to pass this advice on to the webmaster if you know him.  This is the top ranking site for Madeleine:



Plus, as I demonstrated, the current Facebook site is starting to evolve into a missing persons site alongside the appeals for Madeleine.  I completely understand why that is.  The McCanns are trying to do good.  The most important hub remains the OFM website.

[mercury]

No idea.

Makes one wonder though,especially in the light of them making a song and a dance about other efits/sightings/witness statements that have been at best questionable, rather than publicise something/someone seen at a relevant time, on the relevant day, not to worry though

[mercury]

An average of 3 updates a year clearly illustrates that the OFM site is essentially dormant as I stated.  Compare this activity with the FB page which is very active by comparison, most of the activity centres around keeping Madeleine uppermost in people's thoughts.

but thats only relevant in any practical way if they are all "looking out" rather than praying and lighting candles on the internet

[mercury]

Dormant implies a significant slowing down.  It hasn't.

But interestingly - the one time it wasn't dormant (under your definition) was when it came to the Crimewatch photos.  Quickly on, quickly off. 

And Alfred, you may wish to pass this advice on to the webmaster if you know him.  This is the top ranking site for Madeleine:



Plus, as I demonstrated, the current Facebook site is starting to evolve into a missing persons site alongside the appeals for Madeleine.  I completely understand why that is.  The McCanns are trying to do good.  The most important hub remains the OFM website.

Endless atonement...hmmm

[Alfred R Jones]

but thats only relevant in any practical way if they are all "looking out" rather than praying and lighting candles on the internet

Who's to say they aren't?

[lordpookles]

I'm sure the findmadeleine site gets a lot of traffic. They would be neglecting a valuable resource if they were to allow it go completely dormant. Also, how many updates per year would we expect given that most has already been said and the only recent news other then libel trials is Crimewatch?

Regarding the 7 facebook posts of smithman efits. All were made over a few days around mid October 2013 and nothing since that I can see. To break it down smithman efits were posted 3 times on 19th Oct, 3 times on 15 Oct and 1 time on 12th Oct. Nada since then I can see... I see the watch video button....

I'm not pointing out these facts to create doubt - I'm pointing them out because they are facts. How anyone chooses to interpret that information is up to them. However, bear in mind that Smithman may well have been eliminated. Is there an SY/Operation Grange page anywhere where the Smith efits are also displayed as that may be somewhat interesting? I can't find them on the crimewatch website btw.

[Alfred R Jones]

Makes one wonder though,especially in the light of them making a song and a dance about other efits/sightings/witness statements that have been at best questionable, rather than publicise something/someone seen at a relevant time, on the relevant day, not to worry though

I'm not worried.  Perhaps it simply comes down to the fact that Mr Smith claimed the man he saw might be Gerry which rather called into question the reliability of his recall?  I must admit it would make me question his judgment if I were in the McCanns' shoes, knowing that it wasn't Gerry he saw.