The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?

[G-Unit]

The key difference between Kate's discussion of the sightings in her book and actual publication of the efits is that Kate's discussion in her book was never going to identify anyone specific.

So explain again why you think identifying this person was not acceptable but identifying the 'Australian' woman was? Both were identified by witnesses. Both may have been innocent of any involvement with Madeleine's disappearance. Both needed to be eliminated. Neither e-fits were created as part of an ongoing police investigation.

[ferryman]

So explain again why you think identifying this person was not acceptable but identifying the 'Australian' woman was? Both were identified by witnesses. Both may have been innocent of any involvement with Madeleine's disappearance. Both needed to be eliminated. Neither e-fits were created as part of an ongoing police investigation.

Geography and time.

One was in close proximity to apartment 5a (Praia da Luz) at just about the time Madeleine was abducted.

The other other was another country and a different day.

[faithlilly]

Can you think of a reason why the PJ would accept or act upon any information forwarded by Oakley or the UK press which had been obtained following publication of the efits post July 2008?

Isn't that why Oakley had the efits commissioned ? What other reason could there have been than to see if the public recognised the faces ? If Oakley wasn't collecting information to pass on to the PJ what exactly were they collecting information for ?

[G-Unit]

Geography and time.

One was in close proximity to apartment 5a (Praia da Luz) at just about the time Madeleine was abducted.

The other other was another country and a different day.

Dave Edgar was quite clear when he said that a boat or car could have reached Spain in plenty of time to hand Madeleine over to that woman. What was he accusing her of then? Not of being an innocent bystander, I think. No difference as far as accusations go, both are very serious are they not?

[faithlilly]

Geography and time.

One was in close proximity to apartment 5a (Praia da Luz) at just about the time Madeleine was abducted.

The other other was another country and a different day.

The efits were both being accused of criminal activities so what is the difference ?

[misty]

Isn't that why Oakley had the efits commissioned ? What other reason could there had been than to see if the public recognised the faces ? If Oakley wasn't collecting information to pass on to the PJ what exactly were they collecting information for ?

Give the Smiths credit for producing an efit which closely resembled the very person Oakley were working for. How to get a bunch of PI's off your back.

[pathfinder73]

Geography and time.

One was in close proximity to apartment 5a (Praia da Luz) at just about the time Madeleine was abducted.

The other other was another country and a different day.

The fund was to find Madeleine. Releasing those efits at the time could have helped find her. What do you think the fund was for ? To keep searching forever so we will release some more efits every 5 years ?

[ferryman]

The fund was to find Madeleine. Releasing those efits at the time could have helped find her. What do you think the fund was for ? To keep searching forever so we will release some more efits every 5 years ?

Scotland Yard (who had prior possession of the efits for a considerable time) chose the moment to unveil them publicly.

I am not going to try to second-guess Scotland Yard.

[pathfinder73]

Scotland Yard (who had prior possession of the efits for a considerable time) chose the moment to unveil them publicly.

I am not going to try to second-guess Scotland Yard.

SY weren't working on the case in 2008. The McCanns released their own documentary in 2009 entitled Madeleine was Here so they could have been included.  World Exclusive: New suspect eye witness efits in our new documentary by our own investigation team!

[ferryman]

SY weren't working on the case in 2008. The McCanns released their own documentary in 2009 entitled Madeleine was Here so they could have been included.  World Exclusive: New suspect eye witness efits in our new documentary by our own investigation team!

Scotland Yard had the e-fits well before the Crimewatch programme and they chose the moment to release the efits publicly

[pathfinder73]

Scotland Yard had the e-fits well before the Crimewatch programme and they chose the moment to release the efits publicly

Did SY have them in 2008 when they were produced by the McCanns own investigation team?

[Brietta]

SY weren't working on the case in 2008. The McCanns released their own documentary in 2009 entitled Madeleine was Here so they could have been included.  World Exclusive: New suspect eye witness efits in our new documentary by our own investigation team!

You are puzzling me ... the Channel 4 documentary was a Cutting Edge production on Madeleine McCann's disappearance in which her parents were featured.

Can you give a cite for ... "The McCanns released their own documentary in 2009 entitled Madeleine was Here".

[ferryman]

Did SY have them in 2008 when they were produced by the McCanns own investigation team?

If you read The Times apology of the article of their insight team, you will see that it is clearly stated that Scotland Yard had the efits in their possession for some considerable time before the Crimewatch programme, but (themselves!) chose the moment to release them publicly.

[faithlilly]

If you read The Times apology of the article of their insight team, you will see that it is clearly stated that Scotland Yard had the efits in their possession for some considerable time before the Crimewatch programme, but (themselves!) chose the moment to release them publicly.

Before the Crimewatch programme but not for years after they were produced. Why did the McCanns, via Oakley, produce the efits if not to bring information into the investigation immediately ?

[Carana]

Before the Crimewatch programme but not for years after they were produced. Why did the McCanns, via Oakley, produce the efits if not to bring information into the investigation immediately ?

That was presumably the intention, but no one - aside from the parties concerned - knows what hassles there may have been behind the scenes.

The most important point, as Jassi pointed out, is that the Met have now released them.