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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #330 on: September 11, 2015, 06:20:36 PM »
Give the Smiths credit for producing an efit which closely resembled the very person Oakley were working for. How to get a bunch of PI's off your back.

It was a good way of Oakley getting itself sacked too.
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Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #331 on: September 11, 2015, 07:23:10 PM »
You are puzzling me ... the Channel 4 documentary was a Cutting Edge production on Madeleine McCann's disappearance in which her parents were featured.

Can you give a cite for ... "The McCanns released their own documentary in 2009 entitled Madeleine was Here".

It was a Emma Loach/Steve Anderson (Mentorn Media) production actually.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #332 on: September 11, 2015, 07:29:20 PM »
That was presumably the intention, but no one - aside from the parties concerned - knows what hassles there may have been behind the scenes.

The most important point, as Jassi pointed out, is that the Met have now released them.

Strange if there were such hassles why no mention of them in Kate's book or after the Times article. An article detailing the thwarted efforts of the couple to have the efits released would certainly have negated much of the resulting criticism.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #333 on: September 11, 2015, 07:33:24 PM »
It was a Emma Loach/Steve Anderson (Mentorn Media) production actually.

Thanks Lyall. They could have included the efits.

ID – In which documentaries did you participate?

Emma Loach corrects that she is actually the documentary maker. One was broadcast in May 2008, Madeleine McCann, one year on (ITV) and the other in May 2009, Madeleine was here (Ch4). In the first one she didn't use the word "abduction" and the McCanns, as arguidos, couldn't speak. The documentary is about the McCann European campaign.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Emma_Loach_12_09_2013.htm

Emma Loach, the daughter of the film-maker Ken Loach, has also become a close friend and adviser. She has made two television documentaries about the McCanns, and is a regular visitor to the McCanns’ home in Rothley in Leicestershire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/8440440/Hunt-for-Madeleine-McCann-the-next-chapter.html

“We are hopeful that this book may help the investigation to find Madeleine,” says Gerry. “Our hope is that it may prompt those who have relevant information to come forward and share it with our team.
“Somebody holds that key piece of the jigsaw.”

And It would help if you released all the pieces.
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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #334 on: September 11, 2015, 08:02:47 PM »
It was a Emma Loach/Steve Anderson (Mentorn Media) production actually.

The McCanns had some control over it. The Portuguese TV station TV1 was going to buy it, then were told that the McCanns didn't want them to have it. It was given to another TV station, SIC, instead.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #335 on: September 11, 2015, 09:27:23 PM »
It was a Emma Loach/Steve Anderson (Mentorn Media) production actually.

Thank you Lyall.
Then it is wrong to claim that "The McCann's released their own documentary."
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #336 on: September 11, 2015, 09:38:52 PM »
Geography and time.

One was in close proximity to apartment 5a (Praia da Luz) at just about the time Madeleine was abducted.

The other other was another country and a different day.

That was not the reason given (by a McCann fund source) according to the Times:-
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He said the fund wanted to continue to pursue information about the man seen by Tanner, and it would have been too expensive to investigate both sightings in full — so the Smith E-Fits were not publicised. It was also considered necessary to threaten legal action against the authors.
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Offline mercury

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #337 on: September 11, 2015, 09:45:17 PM »
Five years were lost because crucial information, eg Tannerman, was sitting in the files of the shelved investigation.

Sorry to bump this as I am having two days back reading to do.
Which files? The PJ files? How do you know?

Lyall

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Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #338 on: September 11, 2015, 11:01:32 PM »
Thank you Lyall.
Then it is wrong to claim that "The McCann's released their own documentary."

That would be wrong but it wouldn't be wrong to say their friend/ally did.

Channel 4 were happy to give it airtime and that's their business, but it can't be argued it's anything other than a longer version of a party political broadcast. Like her film 12 months earlier it's a personal tribute.

Offline mercury

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #339 on: September 11, 2015, 11:15:18 PM »
That would be wrong but it wouldn't be wrong to say their friend/ally did.

Channel 4 were happy to give it airtime and that's their business, but it can't be argued it's anything other than a longer version of a party political broadcast. Like her film 12 months earlier it's a personal tribute.

Plus the fact Gerry starred in it so much (not mentioning him and his PIs telling Jane she wrong) etc etc
And theres the little matter of Loach herself taking it upon herself to state as a fact Tannmer saw Madeleine being abducted, big booboo.....doesn't she know anything about research? or does she just accept what her mates said so stick in it
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Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #340 on: September 11, 2015, 11:34:42 PM »
Is it a criminal offence to supply false information to a Private Investigator?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #341 on: September 11, 2015, 11:41:47 PM »
Is it a criminal offence to supply false information to a Private Investigator?

Of course not. A private investigator has no legal standing whatsoever.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline mercury

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #342 on: September 11, 2015, 11:47:24 PM »
Is it a criminal offence to supply false information to a Private Investigator?

Which false info did the Mccanns give to their Pis, you're confusing me now

Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #343 on: September 11, 2015, 11:50:57 PM »
Of course not. A private investigator has no legal standing whatsoever.

So, in the event of someone fabricating an efit for a PI, no criminal charge could be brought against them.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits - are the McCanns less than happy with them?
« Reply #344 on: September 11, 2015, 11:59:49 PM »
So, in the event of someone fabricating an efit for a PI, no criminal charge could be brought against them.

Of course not.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?