Were the dog alerts in any way significant?

[pathfinder73]

Exactly the opposite. Eddie and Keela can detect minute samples of blood months after they are deposited. Every bathroom in the country must have some blood contamination what with minor trauma and menstruation. Every kitchen must have housed klutzs that cut themselves with knives when preparing food. Stubbed toes, calls and nose bleeds.

And they only reacted in 5a months after the McCanns bad left and several other residents passed through.

Truly amazing. Especially as no gross blood contamination was found at any point, merely pin pricks.

I smell a rat, or at least a dog.

Eddie goes in first and where he alerts Keela comes to that spot to detect any blood. Keela doesn't sniff every inch of every apartment for microscopic blood. What nonsense! Cadaver scent and blood can be found in the same location believe it or not.

[Carana]

Keela would have only been deployed following a cadaver contaminant alert by Eddie ?

Not in the gym for some strange reason. Keela inspected first. But then everything about that is a bit odd (IMO).

[pathfinder73]

Not in the gym for some strange reason. Keela inspected first. But then everything about that is a bit odd (IMO).

That is not strange. That means if there's no blood on the clothes Eddie is alerting to cadaver.

[Carew]

I am not aware of it. Which means that PdL must be the cleanest environment ever. No one stubbed their toe or nicked themselves shaving. No tampons in bins. No gingivitis. No nose bleeds.

Every potential "crime scene" would be contaminated with these samples, though........dogs would be on a permanent alert-fest were there not more to this than you understand, maybe?

[Alfred R Jones]

Eddie goes in first and where he alerts Keela comes to that spot to detect any blood. Keela doesn't sniff every inch of every apartment for microscopic blood. What nonsense! Cadaver scent and blood can be found in the same location believe it or not.

When Eddie alerts is it to the precise spot where a cadaver may have lain, or is it a generalized alert, taking into account scent cones, air movement and all that blah?

[Alfred R Jones]

..........because she was deployed in areas indicated by Eddie in order to retrieve samples possibly associated with a cadaver rather than a nosebleed or shaving related incident, maybe?

Eddie alerts to blood too though (let us not forget the famous sexy tissue alert in Jersey) so why no alerts anywhere except in McCann-related property?

[Carew]

Eddie alerts to blood too though (let us not forget the famous sexy tissue alert in Jersey) so why no alerts anywhere except in McCann-related property?

Why no alerts anywhere and everywhere any time the EVRD is either deployed or in passing, then?

Is the CSI blood alert response ( the still, silent pointing down posture) different from the cadaver contaminant bark with the head in the air?

Why deploy Keela at all if the entire process could be covered by Eddie alone?

There simply must be more to this than we understand.............because the EVRD would have no value in investigations were he to be identifying nosebleeds everywhere.

[Carana]

Why no alerts anywhere and everywhere any time the EVRD is either deployed or in passing, then?

Is the CSI blood alert response ( the still, silent pointing down posture) different from the cadaver contaminant bark with the head in the air?

Why deploy Keela at all if the entire process could be covered by Eddie alone?

There simply must be more to this than we understand.............because the EVRD would have no value in investigations were he to be identifying nosebleeds everywhere.

Eddie was the GP. Keela was the haematologist.

In this case, nothing of forensic significance was found as a result.

[OxfordBloo]

Every potential "crime scene" would be contaminated with these samples, though........dogs would be on a permanent alert-fest were there not more to this than you understand, maybe?

But Grime tells us they can detect the minutest samples of blood. He cannot have it both ways.

[Alfred R Jones]

Why no alerts anywhere and everywhere any time the EVRD is either deployed or in passing, then?

Is the CSI blood alert response ( the still, silent pointing down posture) different from the cadaver contaminant bark with the head in the air?

Why deploy Keela at all if the entire process could be covered by Eddie alone?

There simply must be more to this than we understand.............because the EVRD would have no value in investigations were he to be identifying nosebleeds everywhere.

Sometimes he alerts to blood sometimes he doesn't.  How can you rely on a tool like that to tell you definitively that a cadaver was once present?  Answer: you can't.  end of.

[OxfordBloo]

Sometimes he alerts to blood sometimes he doesn't.  How can you rely on a tool like that to tell you definitively that a cadaver was once present?  Answer: you can't.  end of.

No. He always alerts to blood. He also always reacts to cadaver. The only decision is a negative orositive indication by Keela which differentiates Eddie's responses.

[Carana]

No. He always alerts to blood. He also always reacts to cadaver. The only decision is a negative orositive indication by Keela which differentiates Eddie's responses.

But what's "cadaver"? Not necessarily a dead human being. If someone slices off the tip of their finger, and the dog found it... it would alert to the scent of human decomposition. Meanwhile, the person could be very much alive, nursing a sore thumb.

There's also the unexplained alert to sex tissues in Jersey - which were apparently within his "training parameters". Keela also seemingly later reacted. There's no way of knowing from the report whether it was obvious what Eddie had reacted to and Grime jotted it down at the time, but dismissed it as irrelevant to the investigation, or whether he noted Eddie's reaction after noticing Keela's.

[Carew]

Why no permanent state of alert and blood-signalling at every site of every investigation or search?

Blood contaminant of every age and stage of decomposition everywhere?

[OxfordBloo]

But what's "cadaver"? Not necessarily a dead human being. If someone slices off the tip of their finger, and the dog found it... it would alert to the scent of human decomposition. Meanwhile, the person could be very much alive, nursing a sore thumb.

There's also the unexplained alert to sex tissues in Jersey - which were apparently within his "training parameters". Keela also seemingly later reacted. There's no way of knowing from the report whether it was obvious what Eddie had reacted to and Grime jotted it down at the time, but dismissed it as irrelevant to the investigation, or whether he noted Eddie's reaction after noticing Keela's.

No. Cadaver means dead body.

Eddie does however react to body parts that have been amputated. Although whole bodies have a much more aggressive putrefaction rate because of the bowel flora.

[OxfordBloo]

Why no permanent state of alert and blood-signalling at every site of every investigation or search?

Blood contaminant of every age and stage of decomposition everywhere?

Exactly.