Were the dog alerts in any way significant?

[Carew]

It is obvious that one or two "executive members" of the Alfie/ Brietta school of   "Assess and Chastise other posters"  are comfortable in knowing they can do so with impunity.

[Mr Gray]

Really? and there was me believing it was medical research.

medical research in itself tells us nothing until the results are statistically analysed.

[Alice Purjorick]

medical research in itself tells us nothing until the results are statistically analysed.

Which is back to my point I think.
With FA to analyse statistics will tell you FA.

[Alfred R Jones]

I have been clear as clear can be about this.  If you can find one single post of mine in which I accuse Grime of consciously cueing the dogs then kindly reproduce it here.  Then let's see who does the wriggling.

[misty]

Perhaps someone would care to explain why Grime made no intervention when Keela was scenting inside the main body of the Scenic but once she was moved into the boot
he made a great show of tapping at certain areas.

[Mr Gray]

Perhaps someone would care to explain why Grime made no intervention when Keela was scenting inside the main body of the Scenic but once she was moved into the boot
he made a great show of tapping at certain areas.

grime was guiding Keela to areas where evidence might be found....cueing if you like...nothing wrong with that...wouldn't want to miss any important evidence

[misty]

grime was guiding Keela to areas where evidence might be found....cueing if you like...nothing wrong with that...wouldn't want to miss any important evidence

So you don't find it odd that he didn't expect Keela to find any evidence inside the main body of the vehicle.....we didn't even see on the DVD Keela indicating to the key fob....and Eddie hadn't even marked the boot....

[Mr Gray]

So you don't find it odd that he didn't expect Keela to find any evidence inside the main body of the vehicle.....we didn't even see on the DVD Keela indicating to the key fob....and Eddie hadn't even marked the boot....

haven't bothered to watch the dvd so not sure what you are saying...basically Grime says the alerts are worth sweet FA so I lost interest

[stephen25000]

haven't bothered to watch the dvd so not sure what you are saying...basically Grime says the alerts are worth sweet FA so I lost interest

That doesn't say much about your concentration span, does it.

[Mr Gray]

That doesn't say much about your concentration span, does it.

I haven't read the Koran either....nothing to do with concentration span...if you get my drift

[stephen25000]

I haven't read the Koran either....nothing to do with concentration span...if you get my drift

How about the 'wit and wisdom of George W. Bush', that is more up your street, and quite possibly easy reading.

[Carew]

No performance.

All unconscious cueing.

How could you be sure it would be unconscious, if, as you said earlier.....

"Might he have been told by Amaral that he had the McCanns bang to rights and all he needed was some forensics to force a confession?"

In suggesting that as a possibility, you pave the way for the handler knowing overtly what was useful in terms of results.

[Mr Gray]

How could you be sure it would be unconscious, if, as you said earlier.....

"Might he have been told by Amaral that he had the McCanns bang to rights and all he needed was some forensics to force a confession?"

In suggesting that as a possibility, you pave the way for the handler knowing overtly what was useful in terms of results.

that would explain why Grime was convinced that if he looked hard enough he would find some evidence...wouldn't that look good on his CV and what a boost for his new business.


Blinded by the pound signs one might say

[OxfordBloo]

How could you be sure it would be unconscious, if, as you said earlier.....

"Might he have been told by Amaral that he had the McCanns bang to rights and all he needed was some forensics to force a confession?"

In suggesting that as a possibility, you pave the way for the handler knowing overtly what was useful in terms of results.

Cueing is by definition unconscious. If the action is conscious its called cheating.

[Carew]

Cueing is by definition unconscious. If the action is conscious its called cheating.

Not "conscious cuing".........as in apparently tapping the hire car?

 Is that what is meant when comment is made regarding certain aspects of the deployment of the dogs?