Were the dog alerts in any way significant?

[Eleanor]

Enhanced VRD was a term dreamed up to explain how a Victim Recovery Dog could suddenly isolate just Cadaver Odour and alert only to that.
Unfortunately it wasn't possible to stop Eddie reacting to Blood.

You might be able to teach old dogs new tricks, but you can't teach them to forget old ones.

[Brietta]

It is really worth looking at the video of the dogs and clothes. The clothes had been gathered up and put into large boxes, not individually bagged. They were thrown on the floor in a public room onto the floor that had not been covered with clean paper.

Every chance of multiple cross contamination.

There is also the fact discussed in great detail on another doggy thread on the forum that prior to being moved to two other locations ~ one which was not 'clean enough' for the dogs, and the sports centre ~ the clothing was present in the villa where Eddie played with cuddle cat ... and was not alerted to.

[G-Unit]

How I use English is up to me. I am not here to impress or make friends. I am here to defend truth and justice.

Read the files. Keela reacted in several places were no forensics were found.

It is indeed up to you how you use English, and the way you have begun to use it guarantees that you won't impress or make friends imo, so you're achieving that objective. Defending truth and justice is a laudable aim. Just depends if we all agree with your definitions, however. If you refuse provide a link to uphold your statements then I'm entitled to assume you can't.

[OxfordBloo]

It is indeed up to you how you use English, and the way you have begun to use it guarantees that you won't impress or make friends imo, so you're achieving that objective. Defending truth and justice is a laudable aim. Just depends if we all agree with your definitions, however. If you refuse provide a link to uphold your statements then I'm entitled to assume you can't.

Which statements have I made that require a cite?

[pathfinder73]

"EVRD dogs" re a creation of Grime's and a few others. There are no reliable statistics on their accuracy. The best estimate is that they are as accurate as any other scent dog - about 80%.

The "Enhanced" does not mean more a curate. VRD dogs are trained to find remains in open country, often after disasters. The so called "Enhanced" dogs are trained to detect trace amounts of decomposed bodies in buildings as well as in the open.

EVRD's are generally not scientifically verified by independent research.

And some dogs like Eddie have had a lot more specialised training and experience and are better at their job and that's a fact.

Both dogs and I are licensed as two separate working teams. We are
independently tested and licensed annually, normally at six monthly intervals
as a 'rolling' programme to ensure best practice is maintained. They are
tested to units of assessment prepared as a stand-alone system as these
dogs are unique. Training records are maintained and are available if
required. (MG)

The dogs' CV is impressive. Besides collaborating in hundreds of investigations, they passed the practical tests brilliantly at the FBI's "Body Farm," the only place in the world where human cadavers are used to simulate homicide scenarios and concealment of bodies. (TOTL)

[Eleanor]

Sorry.  I don't believe that either of the dogs were taken to America before The McCann Case.

[pathfinder73]

Sorry.  I don't believe that either of the dogs were taken to America before The McCann Case.

You're wrong then aren't you?

"He has additionally trained exclusively using human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[ferryman]

Sorry.  I don't believe that either of the dogs were taken to America before The McCann Case.

I have two FOI answers that, between them, confirm that ...

No.

Eleanor is right ...

[OxfordBloo]

And some dogs like Eddie have had a lot more specialised training and experience and are better at their job and that's a fact.

Both dogs and I are licensed as two separate working teams. We are
independently tested and licensed annually, normally at six monthly intervals
as a 'rolling' programme to ensure best practice is maintained. They are
tested to units of assessment prepared as a stand-alone system as these
dogs are unique. Training records are maintained and are available if
required. (MG)

The dogs' CV is impressive. Besides collaborating in hundreds of investigations, they passed the practical tests brilliantly at the FBI's "Body Farm," the only place in the world where human cadavers are used to simulate homicide scenarios and concealment of bodies. (TOTL)

That is advertising blurb, not scientific fact. He wanted to make money out of them and needed a USP.

He was hardly lonely to advertise them as mediocre and unreliable.

I'll bet you believe Irn Bru is made in Scotland from girders and Heineken is the best beer in the world.

[Eleanor]

You're wrong then aren't you?

"He has additionally trained exclusively using human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

When?

[DCI]

And some dogs like Eddie have had a lot more specialised training and experience and are better at their job and that's a fact.

Both dogs and I are licensed as two separate working teams. We are
independently tested and licensed annually, normally at six monthly intervals
as a 'rolling' programme to ensure best practice is maintained. They are
tested to units of assessment prepared as a stand-alone system as these
dogs are unique. Training records are maintained and are available if
required. (MG)

The dogs' CV is impressive. Besides collaborating in hundreds of investigations, they passed the practical tests brilliantly at the FBI's "Body Farm," the only place in the world where human cadavers are used to simulate homicide scenarios and concealment of bodies. (TOTL)

South Yorkshire police in July 2007 and was selling his dogs' services through his private business, had failed to keep up the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) licence that certified Eddie as a police 'cadaver dogGrime did have a second sniffer dog, Keela, but its licence expired a fortnight after they arrived in Jersey.ACPO rules governing UK police dogs state: 'Dog and handler teams that fail to remain in-licence are deemed "not competent".'Grime admitted to The Mail on Sunday that the dog's licence had lapsed. He said: 'After I retired, my dogs were tested according to my own standards which are more stringent than ACPO's. But Jersey is not in the UK, so they were in their rights to employ whoever they wanted.' He said his fees were 'all agreed' and that he had given Jersey a 'discount'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles

[Eleanor]

South Yorkshire police in July 2007 and was selling his dogs' services through his private business, had failed to keep up the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) licence that certified Eddie as a police 'cadaver dogGrime did have a second sniffer dog, Keela, but its licence expired a fortnight after they arrived in Jersey.ACPO rules governing UK police dogs state: 'Dog and handler teams that fail to remain in-licence are deemed "not competent".'Grime admitted to The Mail on Sunday that the dog's licence had lapsed. He said: 'After I retired, my dogs were tested according to my own standards which are more stringent than ACPO's. But Jersey is not in the UK, so they were in their rights to employ whoever they wanted.' He said his fees were 'all agreed' and that he had given Jersey a 'discount'.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles

A Discount on 97,000 Pounds?  Good Heavens.  What would it have cost without The Discount, to find nothing?

[jassi]

Do you think the Welsh ones came much cheaper? They didn't find anything either, as I recall.

[Alfred R Jones]

So did you read the article or not?  It wasn't written or funded by disciples of the McCanns so interested to know your views on this objective piece of research.  Do you accept it or not?  If not, why not?

I guess you've chosen to ignore me G-Unit, correct?

[pathfinder73]

When?

2006 definitely.

30 December 2005

PC John Ellis, her handler, said that police sent for Keela when the scenes of crime squad failed to find what they were looking for. "She can detect minute quantities of blood that cannot be seen with the human eye," he said. "She is used at scenes where someone has tried to clean it up. If blood has seeped into the tiles behind a bath where a body has been, she can find it."

Mr Ellis and Mr Grimes came up with a special training regime to focus on Keela's remarkable skills. It has proved so successful that the FBI has inquired about it. "The FBI is very interested in how we work because they don't have this sort of facility in-house and they are looking at setting up their own unit," Mr Ellis said.
 
Paul Ruffell, of K9 Solutions, a security firm specialising in dog units, said he was amazed at Keela's abilities. "I've been working in this business for 25 years and I've never heard anything like it," he said.

ANIMAL MAGIC
 
£200,000 DOG
 
Keela crime scene investigation dog, South Yorkshire Police
 
Pay none. Charges £530 a day plus expenses for services. Earned almost £200,000 last year.

Maddie hunt: Send in dogs The Sun
 
By Ian Hepburn and John Askill
Published: 23 May 2007
 
Stubborn Portuguese police chiefs are refusing to let the world's best sniffer dogs join the hunt for Madeleine McCann.
 
Senior British cops last night urged officers leading the inquiry to accept help from UK dog teams before it is too late.
 
Two dogs attached to Britain's National Policing Improvement Agency have developed such powerful tracking skills they can follow a scent for miles, even one up to 28 days old.
 
By sniffing an item of Maddie's clothing, they could trace a trail that might finally unlock the mystery of the four-year-old's disappearance.
 
Police in the Algarve appear no nearer to finding Maddie 20 days after she was snatched from her bed in the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz. But the sniffer dogs are still being snubbed.
 
A senior UK police source said: "It is an absolute scandal, time is fast running out for this little girl.
 
"These dogs have immense capability. Their tracking skills are among the finest in the world.
 
"The dogs were put on standby to go to the Algarve within days of Madeleine’s disappearance.
 
"You would expect the Portuguese to make use of the best resources available to them, but they repeatedly ignore the offers of assistance."
 
The dogs include a spaniel whose sense of smell is so keen she can sniff traces of blood on a weapon even after it has been scrubbed clean.
 
But the source warned: "They work most effectively within a 28-day time frame. After that the scent becomes much weaker."
 
Other British dog-handling teams did join the initial search for Maddie, and local cops later reported that dogs found a scent, but the trail was lost after 250 yards.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html