Were the dog alerts in any way significant?

[OxfordBloo]

That is rather a sweeping generalistion about Carew which would presuppose you know the identity and profession of that particular poster. Even to say "well I can tell by the posts" would imply you had eliminated the possibility that the poster was a wise man taking the piss which would presuppose you knew for sure he wasn't.
That would leave one wondering.

I can only go on his analysis of the evidence which is patently unscientific.

[OxfordBloo]

The British have taken over this case and are searching for a body because of British dog evidence. Tannerman is history and they are using British dogs again. Not any old dog but their best ones. Oh the irony!

The British have not taken over the case.

They have been allowed a parallel investigation.

The Portuguese are also investigating.

There is no evidence to indicate that the are only considering a death and disposal locally.

Unless you have a cite, that just remains you biased opinion.

[OxfordBloo]

What are the chances of the only clothing (out of a huge amount in total) to be alerted to -  just happening to have all been packed into the same box?       Considering the number of containers involved -  the odds of that happening merely by coincidence must be massive.

Why didn't Eddie alert to the same clothing whilst it was in the villa - but instead -  only alerted to them after they were removed and taken elsewhere?

If all items were in the same transport box then contamination cannot be ignored.

[OxfordBloo]

Clothes have to be screened separately. The dogs have to sniff up close to positively alert to clothes. Eddie doesn't bark alert unless unless he is certain.

But they could have been rubbing together and we know from Grime and from science that cadaver odour can be transferred by contact from one item to another.

[OxfordBloo]

Eddie's first class record in cases and finding proof of death scent and bodies is the reason why his alerts will be taken seriously by the police.

There is no clear evidence about Eddie' accuracy.

[DCI]

The clothes were not laid out in the underground car park.

Was Amaral lying, in his book, then?


"The soft toy and all the clothes from the house are placed into boxes specially made to preserve evidence. These objects are then conveyed to the decontaminated premises. They are placed on the ground, a good distance apart for the dogs to examine. At 8pm, Tavares de Almeida calls me to let me know that Mark Harrison requires another place because this one is not sufficiently clean.- How do I find a place at this kind of time?- Sort it out! Julio Barroso offers us the new sports hall in Lagos which, finally, meets the required standards. The objects are once again laid out on the ground and the dogs can start. Eddie alerts us to a strong cadaver odour on some of Kate's clothes, but the CSI dog doesn't detect the slightest trace of blood."

[OxfordBloo]

Had the case ever come to trial the gym and the underground car park fiascos would have been laughed out of court.

Totally agree. The videos are foul of schoolboy errors and they contradict Grime's notes which were not contemporaneous but written later- very bad practice.

[pathfinder73]

But they could have been rubbing together and we know from Grime and from science that cadaver odour can be transferred by contact from one item to another.

There's only one missing person is this case and possible human cadaver. The dogs alerted inside the apartment she went missing from. The first alert was NO BLOOD by Eddie.

[jassi]

But they could have been rubbing together and we know from Grime and from science that cadaver odour can be transferred by contact from one item to another.

The odour would need to come from somewhere in the first place.

[pathfinder73]

The British have not taken over the case.

They have been allowed a parallel investigation.

The Portuguese are also investigating.

There is no evidence to indicate that the are only considering a death and disposal locally.

Unless you have a cite, that just remains you biased opinion.

I presume their not dumb after finding Tannerman and looking for Smithman. They will feed the press BS I'm sure.

[OxfordBloo]

The odour would need to come from somewhere in the first place.

Dogs can alert to none blood none cadaverine targets in error. This is what the science shows.

[OxfordBloo]

The clothes were not laid out in the underground car park.

It does not say that. It says that the videos shot in the gym and of the cars... it does not say that the clothes were in the car park.

[OxfordBloo]

I simply refused to believe that isolated items of clothing, boxed up among many others, can retain Cadaver Odour after three months.

The science does say they could.

[OxfordBloo]

The Portuguese were totally overwhelmed by this investigation, the screenings in the gym and the car park were chaotic, arranged on the spur of the moment with little thought being given to the way in which the test items were handled.  A unmitigated shambles.

Agreed

[jassi]

The Portuguese were totally overwhelmed by this investigation, the screenings in the gym and the car park were chaotic, arranged on the spur of the moment with little thought being given to the way in which the test items were handled.  A unmitigated shambles.

Were they not following guidance from the British on this?