Were the dog alerts in any way significant?

[G-Unit]

I think I said that a couple of days ago.

Sorry, didn't see that.

[slartibartfast]

Sorry, didn't see that.

No problem, I didn' state it as succinctly.

[Alfred R Jones]

Hmmmm........your reply to me earlier on in the thread.....emboldened below.......
It could seem that you are prepared to accept "conscious cuing" as an integral part of the handler instruction process.

Or did you mean only handlers other than the one involved in the case under discussion?


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Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. / Re: Were the dog alerts in any way significant?
« on: May 05, 2015, 02:16:26 PM »


Quote from: Carew on May 05, 2015, 01:44:28 PM

Has science shown yet why errors in alerts.... due to contaminants.... blood or non-blood, present at all investigation sites are not occurring on a continual basis, anywhere and everywhere.....rendering deployment of the dogs a waste of time?

Alfie
The dogs get "switched on" by handler command, don't they?  In other words if their handler doesn't instruct them to alert they won't.  Which is carte blanche for handler bias, conscious or unconscious to come into play, isn't it?

Some handlers may cue deliberately, some may cue accidentally, but nowhere in my post do I accuse Grime of deliberate cueing, so please spend a few more hours trawling through my posts for any evidence of my "traducng" of Grime...

[G-Unit]

What DNA matter was recovered?  Evidence of a dead body?  Isn't it likely that DNA samples could have been recovered from pretty much everywhere in the apartment, the kitchen and bathroom especially?

Why didn't the dogs alert everywhere then?

[Mr Gray]

Why didn't the dogs alert everywhere then?

because neither dog alerts specifically to dna

[Alfred R Jones]

Why didn't the dogs alert everywhere then?

Are they DNA dogs?

[G-Unit]

Please read carefully. Eddie and Keela alerted behind the sofa in the living room of G5A and to the car. Samples were taken and DNA was found in the samples. Most likely the samples were blood because Keela was a bloodhound. Three alerts, three results, 100% success rate.

[Mr Gray]

Please read carefully. Eddie and Keela alerted behind the sofa in the living room of G5A and to the car. Samples were taken and DNA was found in the samples. Most likely the samples were blood because Keela was a bloodhound. Three alerts, three results, 100% success rate.

"most likely" again is meaningless

[Carew]

Some handlers may cue deliberately, some may cue accidentally, but nowhere in my post do I accuse Grime of deliberate cueing, so please spend a few more hours trawling through my posts for any evidence of my "traducng" of Grime...

Good morning.

Post 55 on the thread didn`t take long in "trawling" time. Nowt else was necessary.

I think you made your views on handlers quite clear.

In a post of yours removed last night, you also defended Oxfordbloo as never accusing the handler in the case of "consciously cuing"..........The posts in which he clarifies "conscious cuing" as "blatant cheating" and links it to the hire car investigation are still there.

At least Oxfordbloo and others on the thread stand by their views on the handler bias which they feel was apparent in the searches.

Doing it by sneaky smearing and abusing me as facetious and needing to grow up when challenged for it is what I call "wriggling."

If Admin object to my view, they are able to remove it..........(as they did your high- and -mighty post to me last night.)

[Alfred R Jones]

Good morning.

Post 55 on the thread didn`t take long in "trawling" time. Nowt else was necessary.

I think you made your views on handlers quite clear.

In a post of yours removed last night, you also defended Oxfordbloo as never accusing the handler in the case of "consciously cuing"..........The posts in which he clarifies "conscious cuing" as "blatant cheating" and links it to the hire car investigation are still there.

At least Oxfordbloo and others on the thread stand by their views on the handler bias which they feel was apparent in the searches.

Doing it by sneaky smearing and abusing me as facetious and needing to grow up when challenged for it is what I call "wriggling."

If Admin object to my view, they are able to remove it..........(as they did your high- and -mighty post to me last night.)

Would you kindly present evidence of me accusing the handler of deliberately cueing the dogs or admit you have mistepresented my views and apologise.  Many thanks.

[Mr Gray]

of course grime cued the dogs..it's standard practice

[mercury]

One wonders why police send in cadaver dogs into any investigation at all going by some of the "expert opinions" here that they can't be "trusted"

[Mr Gray]

One wonders why police send in cadaver dogs into any investigation at all going by some of the "expert opinions" here that they can't be "trusted"

they send them to find evidence

[mercury]

they send them to find evidence

Evidence of what?

[Mr Gray]

Evidence of what?

evidence of alien abduction