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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2017, 12:57:19 PM »
In response to your and Alices fascecious posts, of course it may have put the children at risk.

When there is a queue at any desk, or anyone is waiting, they tend to read anything that is on the walls or lieing around.

If the wrong person read it, that children were alone but being checked, then the danger is magnified.



It was very thoughtless, imo, that this note was left for others to see  BUT I can understand a young person maybe not realising the danger.  Was the recptionist who wrote it, a younger person or someone with life experience, who ought to have had more sense?

It was extremely thoughtless to leave small children home alone each evening, to use it as a bargaining tool to save having to go and book the restaurant every day like the other guests and to take up nine covers each evening thereby preventing other guests from dining at the Tapas. IMO

Having done that, it is almost beyond belief that someone would criticise someone else for allegedly putting those children at risk. I say allegedly because I don't know when this note was written or by whom due to there being conflicting accounts of the incident. IMO

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2017, 01:01:34 PM »
Why this blaming other people Sadie.

The Mccanns were responsible for their own childcare.
If Maddie was abducted as SY believe the abductors was responsible for Maddies disappearance
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Offline misty

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #92 on: June 22, 2017, 01:11:23 PM »
Was the note written in English or Portuguese?

stephen25000

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Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #93 on: June 22, 2017, 01:15:49 PM »
If caddie was abducted as SY believe the abductors was responsible for daddies disappearance

Pure speculation.

They have several hypotheses which are being 'investigated'.

Which means, just as when the case was originally shelved, and as I have predicted, it will again, OG , do not know what happened.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #94 on: June 22, 2017, 01:52:00 PM »
In response to your and Alices fascecious posts, of course it may have put the children at risk.

When there is a queue at any desk, or anyone is waiting, they tend to read anything that is on the walls or lieing around.

If the wrong person read it, that children were alone but being checked, then the danger is magnified.



It was very thoughtless, imo, that this note was left for others to see  BUT I can understand a young person maybe not realising the danger.  Was the recptionist who wrote it, a younger person or someone with life experience, who ought to have had more sense?

I was commenting on an article in a Newcastle newspaper, in 2014, linked by another poster. The newspaper article could not possibly have posed a risk to children.
I was pointing out the article was mostly rusk rather than meat and as such could not be used to give credence to anything much.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2017, 02:21:29 PM »
Was the note written in English or Portuguese?

You'll need to ask that question of either Amaral or the McCanns as only they seem to have seen it, and their accounts of who wrote it and when differ.
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Offline sadie

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2017, 03:27:30 PM »
Was the note written in English or Portuguese?

Interesting question.

Was the note written in English or Portuguese?

Offline sadie

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #97 on: June 22, 2017, 03:31:05 PM »
Why this blaming other people Sadie.

The Mccanns were responsible for their own childcare.

Here you go again stephen.

Same old, same old mantra



Are you unable to see, as most of us can, that that note endangered the children?   

stephen25000

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Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #98 on: June 22, 2017, 03:46:10 PM »
Here you go again stephen.

Same old, same old mantra



Are you unable to see, as most of us can, that that note endangered the children?

That is Supposition Sadie.

No more, no less.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #99 on: June 22, 2017, 03:51:13 PM »
Here you go again stephen.

Same old, same old mantra

Are you unable to see, as most of us can, that that note endangered the children?
Did such a note exist?

Was the supposed book ever 'on display'?

Was the alleged book open at the note page?

Could customers and staff see through the reception lectern top?

Was the alleged book the correct way round for customers to see?  Or did they read upside down?

If the information was dangerous, why request a block booking and inform the receptionist of the reason for this?
What's up, old man?

Offline kizzy

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #100 on: June 22, 2017, 04:19:57 PM »
Here you go again stephen.

Same old, same old mantra



Are you unable to see, as most of us can, that that note endangered the children?


I M O, then the mccanns didn't only leave their children, they broadcast it as well.

As for what most of you can see, why can't you see leaving them, was the biggest endangerment.

stephen25000

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Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2017, 04:29:53 PM »
If caddie was abducted as SY believe the abductors was responsible for daddies disappearance

I presume you mean Madeleine ?

As to 'abduction, abductor or abductors', just an unproven theory, just like the rest of the alternatives.

Offline misty

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2017, 04:43:45 PM »


This statement appears to contain all the information which was in the note so presumably it was written in the receptionist's native Portuguese.

http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUISA_COUTINHO.htm 
"When questioned, she confirms that the man was not the father of the girl but one of the members of the group whom was often seen in his company.

The man justified his request by saying that the group had many small children whom they would leave alone when they went to dine. She said that at intervals some two parents would go to the apartments to see if everything was OK."

The deponent made some comments about the request, saying that the Tapas received many requests and that MW only had a quota of 20 per day, but upon the insistence of the guest she managed to make the bookings requested.



Amaral's version in his book of the note is slightly different:
"During the parents’ dinner, the children again sleep alone. A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they are OK."

It is clear something was written in the booking register. If it was written in Portuguese then that pretty much excludes most of the English holiday-makers dining at the Tapas from understanding what the note said, had it been on public display.


Offline Brietta

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2017, 05:45:18 PM »
Did such a note exist?

Was the supposed book ever 'on display'?

Was the alleged book open at the note page?

Could customers and staff see through the reception lectern top?

Was the alleged book the correct way round for customers to see?  Or did they read upside down?

If the information was dangerous, why request a block booking and inform the receptionist of the reason for this?

It was only after Madeleine's disappearance that it became apparent that Praia da Luz was not the child safe resort that it was advertised to be.
Do you think that any one of the occupants of the holiday apartments in block five would have dined apart from their children had they known about the burglary and the illegal entry made to other apartments in that block and in the adjoining residences?

The booking was requested ~ the reasons given ~ the booking was accepted and a note taken.  Whether anyone had access and was able to read it was probably something a competent investigation would have checked out.
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Offline Innominate

Re: The Tapas Note.
« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2017, 05:53:22 PM »

This statement appears to contain all the information which was in the note so presumably it was written in the receptionist's native Portuguese.

http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUISA_COUTINHO.htm 
"When questioned, she confirms that the man was not the father of the girl but one of the members of the group whom was often seen in his company.

The man justified his request by saying that the group had many small children whom they would leave alone when they went to dine. She said that at intervals some two parents would go to the apartments to see if everything was OK."

The deponent made some comments about the request, saying that the Tapas received many requests and that MW only had a quota of 20 per day, but upon the insistence of the guest she managed to make the bookings requested.



Amaral's version in his book of the note is slightly different:
"During the parents’ dinner, the children again sleep alone. A restaurant employee notes on the reception register that certain members of the group get up in turn to go and make sure they are OK."

It is clear something was written in the booking register. If it was written in Portuguese then that pretty much excludes most of the English holiday-makers dining at the Tapas from understanding what the note said, had it been on public display.

I had a go at Google Translate and it translated the passage as:

The deponent has put some obstacles to the request since it is a very requested restaurant and that it has only 20 places daily for the clients of mark warner, nevertheless after insistence on the part of the mentioned host, the deponent was able to make the reservations requested

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Instead of 'comments' the translation was 'obstacles'.

I'm not convinced there was a note on the booking sheet - is there a copy of the booking sheet in the file that shows the note?

Perhaps, this is another of Amaral's slips?