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Online ShiningInLuz

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #270 on: October 21, 2018, 09:18:18 PM »
http://portugalresident.com/rape-of-british-tourist-results-in-suspended-sentence
Jusice Portuguese style... What a disgraceful judgement
Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.

Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.

Would that be a disgraceful judgement?
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Offline sadie

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #271 on: October 21, 2018, 10:04:12 PM »
Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.

Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.

Would that be a disgraceful judgement?

Yes it would have been, because the PJ had nothing on the Mccanns to judge against them

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #272 on: October 21, 2018, 10:07:42 PM »
Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.

Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.

Would that be a disgraceful judgement?
Do you support a suspended sentence for rape?  And yes, two years suspended for hiding your child’s body would be far too lenient imo.

Offline Brietta

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #273 on: October 21, 2018, 11:34:38 PM »
Under most circumstances sentences of 5 years or less are suspended.

Kate's lawyer should have made clear to her that a 2 year sentence for body occultation would be suspended.

Would that be a disgraceful judgement?

In my opinion if you are correct that sentences of less than five years are suspended the sentence for the heinous crimes perpetrated on the British girl merited that being taken into consideration when the sentence was being handed down.
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Online ShiningInLuz

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #274 on: October 21, 2018, 11:52:24 PM »
Don't shoot the messenger.   *&^^&
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Offline misty

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #275 on: October 21, 2018, 11:56:57 PM »
Here's another case which is even more at odds with judicial punishment than the rape case. What planet are these judges on?


http://portugalresident.com/pedophile-teacher-spared-jail-after-receiving-seven-and-a-half-year-sentence
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 11, 2018
Évora appeals court has this week decided to spare a swimming teacher from the seven-and-a-half year jail term for child sex abuse handed out in February.

Seventy-year-old Joaquim Patrício originally received a prison term of 12 years for five crimes against two girls, aged eight and nine, committed at a swimming pool in Vidigueira. But the ‘cumulative punishment’ rounded down to seven-and-a-half years.

Patrício put in for appeal - which meant he remained at liberty while the judgement went forwards.

Now that appeal court judges have reduced the original sentence - to five years suspended - Patrício will end up not going to jail at all.

Compensation payments set in the first trial still stand (Patrício was ordered to pay one victim 15,000 euros and the other 7,500 euros), as does the 10-year ban on exercising any kind of profession with children.

The judges’ explanation for reducing the sentence was that “in spite of the alarm that these kind of crimes cause”, Patrício “did not have any previous criminal convictions” and, as far as they could see, “the facts (of the case) were not of a very high level of illegality”, making the penalties conferred “excessive and too high”.

At the original trail, the judge heard how Patrício had “placed his hand within the bathing suit” of one of his victims, putting a finger inside the child’s vagina, “causing pain”.

A local report at the time said that the mother of one of the children had left the court in tears once the sentence was read out.

The same news sources remarks this week that in September another teacher accused of pedophilia was sent to jail for 18 years for 14 crimes of abuse, as well as various crimes of mistreatment of minors.

It is unclear whether that teacher too has taken his case to appeal.

But in Porto this week PJ police arrested a 44-year-old IT employee convicted in 2014 to 10 years behind bars for child sex abuse but who has also remained at liberty pending an appeal ever since.

The man was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of four further crimes against.

Inspectors “believe there could be many more victims throughout the country”, writes Correio da Manhã, describing a “quantity of pornographic images and videos of children” discovered on the man’s mobile phone and computer.

This time round, says the paper, the man has been held in preventive custody and will be assessed by psychologists “to see whether he suffers from a disturbance or sexual compulsion”.

natasha.donn@algarveresident.com


Offline Brietta

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #276 on: October 22, 2018, 12:09:52 AM »
Here's another case which is even more at odds with judicial punishment than the rape case. What planet are these judges on?


http://portugalresident.com/pedophile-teacher-spared-jail-after-receiving-seven-and-a-half-year-sentence
Posted by PORTUGALPRESS on October 11, 2018
Évora appeals court has this week decided to spare a swimming teacher from the seven-and-a-half year jail term for child sex abuse handed out in February.

Seventy-year-old Joaquim Patrício originally received a prison term of 12 years for five crimes against two girls, aged eight and nine, committed at a swimming pool in Vidigueira. But the ‘cumulative punishment’ rounded down to seven-and-a-half years.

Patrício put in for appeal - which meant he remained at liberty while the judgement went forwards.

Now that appeal court judges have reduced the original sentence - to five years suspended - Patrício will end up not going to jail at all.

Compensation payments set in the first trial still stand (Patrício was ordered to pay one victim 15,000 euros and the other 7,500 euros), as does the 10-year ban on exercising any kind of profession with children.

The judges’ explanation for reducing the sentence was that “in spite of the alarm that these kind of crimes cause”, Patrício “did not have any previous criminal convictions” and, as far as they could see, “the facts (of the case) were not of a very high level of illegality”, making the penalties conferred “excessive and too high”.

At the original trail, the judge heard how Patrício had “placed his hand within the bathing suit” of one of his victims, putting a finger inside the child’s vagina, “causing pain”.

A local report at the time said that the mother of one of the children had left the court in tears once the sentence was read out.

The same news sources remarks this week that in September another teacher accused of pedophilia was sent to jail for 18 years for 14 crimes of abuse, as well as various crimes of mistreatment of minors.

It is unclear whether that teacher too has taken his case to appeal.

But in Porto this week PJ police arrested a 44-year-old IT employee convicted in 2014 to 10 years behind bars for child sex abuse but who has also remained at liberty pending an appeal ever since.

The man was arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of four further crimes against.

Inspectors “believe there could be many more victims throughout the country”, writes Correio da Manhã, describing a “quantity of pornographic images and videos of children” discovered on the man’s mobile phone and computer.

This time round, says the paper, the man has been held in preventive custody and will be assessed by psychologists “to see whether he suffers from a disturbance or sexual compulsion”.

natasha.donn@algarveresident.com

My reading of that is that he was enabled to commit four more offences against children while enjoying freedom until his appeal was heard.

If so it is my opinion that he is not the only one guilty of an offence ... the system which allowed it needs a critical review with public safety at the heart of it.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline misty

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #277 on: October 22, 2018, 12:28:00 AM »
My reading of that is that he was enabled to commit four more offences against children while enjoying freedom until his appeal was heard.

If so it is my opinion that he is not the only one guilty of an offence ... the system which allowed it needs a critical review with public safety at the heart of it.

I don't think Portugal is unique in its failures to deal appropriately with ex offenders. The latest grooming gang case in Huddersfield is yet another sorry indictment of the failures on our own doorstep.

Offline Brietta

Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #278 on: October 22, 2018, 01:32:20 AM »
I don't think Portugal is unique in its failures to deal appropriately with ex offenders. The latest grooming gang case in Huddersfield is yet another sorry indictment of the failures on our own doorstep.

Unfortunately you have got it spot on Misty.  There are far too any examples of the lack of value given to children and young people.
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Re: News and current affairs from the Portuguese Algarve.
« Reply #279 on: October 22, 2018, 11:08:52 AM »
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