Author Topic: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?  (Read 82793 times)

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #180 on: May 19, 2015, 07:46:53 PM »
Kate had been made the lowest level of arguido possible.

I thought the arguido status was a uniform one?

I stand to be corrected.

From Kate's arguido statement -

"The arguida’s legal representative, Dr Carlos Pinto de Abreu, is also present.

She now possesses arguida status, and the rights and duties that assist her are explained to her, and she is subject to TIR [“termo de identidade e residência”, the lowest coercion measure that is automatically applicable, and consists of stating one’s name and residence]."

Please don't ask me what other coercion measures are applicable.  I haven't a clue.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #181 on: May 19, 2015, 07:55:06 PM »
http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm

Thanks, Ferryman.  So some suggestions there that it was Kate they were after.

ferryman

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Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #182 on: May 19, 2015, 07:56:48 PM »
From Kate's arguido statement -

"The arguida’s legal representative, Dr Carlos Pinto de Abreu, is also present.

She now possesses arguida status, and the rights and duties that assist her are explained to her, and she is subject to TIR [“termo de identidade e residência”, the lowest coercion measure that is automatically applicable, and consists of stating one’s name and residence]."

Please don't ask me what other coercion measures are applicable.  I haven't a clue.

Thank you for that.

Offline Brietta

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #183 on: May 19, 2015, 08:06:01 PM »
From Kate's arguido statement -

"The arguida’s legal representative, Dr Carlos Pinto de Abreu, is also present.

She now possesses arguida status, and the rights and duties that assist her are explained to her, and she is subject to TIR [“termo de identidade e residência”, the lowest coercion measure that is automatically applicable, and consists of stating one’s name and residence]."

Please don't ask me what other coercion measures are applicable.  I haven't a clue.

So basically all that was legally required of her was for Kate to give her name and address and nothing else??
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ferryman

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Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #184 on: May 19, 2015, 08:16:47 PM »
Thanks, Ferryman.  So some suggestions there that it was Kate they were after.

By Amaral's reckoning, it was Kate who found Madeleine's body.

And by the "deal", Gerry would have got off scot free while Kate would have got a couple of years.

Offline Carana

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #185 on: May 19, 2015, 08:47:28 PM »
From Kate's arguido statement -

"The arguida’s legal representative, Dr Carlos Pinto de Abreu, is also present.

She now possesses arguida status, and the rights and duties that assist her are explained to her, and she is subject to TIR [“termo de identidade e residência”, the lowest coercion measure that is automatically applicable, and consists of stating one’s name and residence]."

Please don't ask me what other coercion measures are applicable.  I haven't a clue.

House arrest or being held on remand.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #186 on: May 19, 2015, 08:47:59 PM »
By Amaral's reckoning, it was Kate who found Madeleine's body.

And by the "deal", Gerry would have got off scot free while Kate would have got a couple of years.

If Kate had accepted the deal, what do you think Kate would have done when they asked her what she had done with the body?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #187 on: May 19, 2015, 09:16:35 PM »
john has accepted it was the right thing to do at the time but says it may make people doubt kate in the long run...

it doesn't make a scrap of difference in the long run......other factors are far more important. Those who say "the dog's don't lie" think her silence is suspicious....those of us who understand the dog's evidence say she was right to refuse to answer...simple

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #188 on: May 19, 2015, 09:30:32 PM »
so what difference would it have made if kate had answered those questions..if you think about it..absolutely none

ferryman

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Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #189 on: May 19, 2015, 09:32:42 PM »
If Kate had accepted the deal, what do you think Kate would have done when they asked her what she had done with the body?

Yep!

stephen25000

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Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #190 on: May 19, 2015, 09:51:54 PM »
By Amaral's reckoning, it was Kate who found Madeleine's body.

And by the "deal", Gerry would have got off scot free while Kate would have got a couple of years.

So you have proof of this ?

ferryman

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Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #191 on: May 19, 2015, 10:22:05 PM »
So you have proof of this ?

Yes.

I believe he said it in his el Mundo interview.

I can't find it straight away ...

Offline faithlilly

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #192 on: May 19, 2015, 10:38:14 PM »
He was there with her Montclair, I think we would have heard by now if it was untrue.

Would that be covered by client confidentiality ?
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Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #193 on: May 19, 2015, 10:41:38 PM »
What does Amaral have to say about Kate's cross-questioning and refusal to answer in his very excellent and truthful book?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Does invoking the right to silence carry with it significant risk?
« Reply #194 on: May 19, 2015, 10:53:40 PM »
Dunno I anna read it!
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