Message carved on the cupboard door in the twins bedroom

[John]

Message carved in wood at White House Farm - "I hate this place"

Does anyone have any particular views on this or who could have done it?

[Milly]

That's really sad and shows that the house held some bad memories for someone.   

[Mr Justice K]

Message carved in wood at White House Farm - "I hate this place"

Does anyone have any particular views on this or who could have done it?

In my humble opinion it would appear to be the creative work of a child but one wonders how old this particular piece of work was?    It has been suggested in the other place that it was Sheila who did it in support of their theory that she was out of control.  Could it have been scarved on a door by Jeremy that very morning in order to back up his wild aspersions concerning his sister?

I would suggest his familiarity with upper case script could engender him to such work.

[John]

An interesting point Mr K and worth pursuing.   

We have got Jeremy's handwriting on file on the forum so give me twenty minutes or so and I will do a analysis of the letters to see if they have anything in common.

The first significant thing you notice is that the first letter, a capital i is made as an ӏ and not an I.

The second thing in common is that the right leg on the letter A is longer than the left one, another common Jeremy Bamber trait.

[Myster]

Look at the angular letter "L"

Going by the letter "L" with the rounded base, in Bamber's hand drawn plan (xdsTv.jpg), I would think it more likely to be the work of Sheila, perhaps in a fit of pique before she left home in her younger days..., that is if it was concealed from her parents' gaze in the meantime.

Then again, Mr Justice K as you say, it could have been part of the Bamber's master plan that morning to discredit Sheila.

[Andrea]

The judge accepted that it was more than likely Sheila wrote that.

[John]

Look at the angular letter "L"

Going by the letter "L" with the rounded base, in Bamber's hand drawn plan (xdsTv.jpg), I would think it more likely to be the work of Sheila, perhaps in a fit of pique before she left home in her younger days..., that is if it was concealed from her parents' gaze in the meantime.

Then again, Mr Justice K as you say, it could have been part of the Bamber's master plan that morning to discredit Sheila.

Totally agree, his normal letter L is very much rounded like a non capital but then again he would be trying to disguise his writing and make it look as if someone else did it.  Just a thought.   >@@(*&)

Something I never noticed on the plan he drew up that morning Myster, he refers to Nicholas and Daniel as "twin boy" and not his nephew?

[Andrea]

He also puts sheilas height, John. he doesnt mention anyone elses, just hers.

[Myster]

Look at the angular letter "L"

Going by the letter "L" with the rounded base, in Bamber's hand drawn plan (xdsTv.jpg), I would think it more likely to be the work of Sheila, perhaps in a fit of pique before she left home in her younger days..., that is if it was concealed from her parents' gaze in the meantime.

Then again, Mr Justice K as you say, it could have been part of the Bamber's master plan that morning to discredit Sheila.

Totally agree, his normal letter L is very much rounded like a non capital but then again he would be trying to disguise his writing and make it look as if someone else did it.  Just a thought.   >@@(*&)

Something I never noticed on the plan he drew up that morning Myster, he refers to Nicholas and Daniel as "twin boy" and not his nephew?

..... as if he was trying to distance himself from his family and what he had done that morning.

[John]

..... as if he was trying to distance himself from his family and what he had done that morning.

It does seem very cold and impersonal doesn't it.

He also puts sheilas height, John. he doesnt mention anyone elses, just hers.

I never noticed that before I must admit.

[Andrea]

You learn something new everyday!

[keith]

A rare post from me. The capital letter style is quite relevant and very telling to me. If we take a look at this one, a key feature is that the E tends to slant upward - and that favours JB having written this, as does the l. I would like to see Sheila's writing too, does any one have any examples? My view is that JB wrote this on the wall, the 'coded suicide note' (the G gives it away) and the 'suicide note' in the bible (also in capital letters).

Did Sheila write in capital letters? Or did Jeremy write all these things to implicate Sheila?

[Tim Invictus]

All that private education and Bamber couldn't even spell rifle!

If Sheila did write that message on the wall it's irrelevant as it must be very old. Sheila didn't live at WHF and she was there on hols. with her adored boys. She wasn't forced to be there and as witnessed by many people Sheila was happy as a lark out walking with her boys!

I tend to think the message could be a Bamber ruse too .... the boy who always writes in capital letters!

[Joanne]

He does yes, I had a couple of letters from him and it was always capitals, although I haven't contacted him since I joined here. I can trust myself not to ask-why did you do it? Why did you kill the babies? What did they do? They're innocent like your parents and your gorgeous sister.

[puglove]

Message written in crayon on bedroom wall - "I hate this place"

Does anyone have any particular views on this or who could have written it?

In my humble opinion it would appear to be the creative work of a child but one wonders how old this particular piece of graffiti is?    It has been suggested in the other place that it was Sheila who did it in support of their theory that she was out of control.  Could it have been scribbled on the wall by Jeremy that very morning in order to back up his wild aspersions concerning his sister?

I would suggest his familiarity with upper case script could engender him to such a scribble.

I would have thought if June or Ralph had seen this they would have been horrified, and removed or covered it. So it's possible that it was very recent.