The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[Alfred R Jones]

There's a set of tests on the BBC dating back maybe 15 years, designed to show the brain differences between men and women.

One was an empathy test, with scores in the range 0-20.

It was a long time ago, so please allow for memory errors on my part.

The average scores for men and for women were surprisingly close, indicating that empathy is not a good way to differentiate men and women.  I believe the average was 12 for men and 14 for women.

I scored a 2.

Folks who know me in real life know that if they want help/experience/problem resolution, I'm great at that.  But if they want empathy they go elsewhere.

Funnily enough, I did get that sort of vibe off you, it seems this case attracts a lot of people with zero empathy - I wonder why?

[Eleanor]

Dear dear dear.  Four hours away and interacting with normal and caring people, and I am shocked yet again.
There is never any mention of the culpability of some other person.  Always and only it is the fault of the parents, despite obvious other possibilities.
So when do the parents of a missing child actually matter?

[Carew]

In what way did the strategy of the vilification of Madeleine McCann's parents assist in solving her case?

......and how exactly does this reply answer my post to which you`ve attached it ?

I did not mention any "strategy" to vilify the parents.

The "strategy" I referred to was that employed by those who possibly do not want Madeleine found.

This is the post, in case you are confused.....

If she had not been alive when she left the apartment........which is being considered as a possibility according to SY comments..........then it figures that the removers did not want her found.

Could this have led to a "strategy" designed to prevent her being found?

[slartibartfast]

Dear dear dear.  Four hours away and interacting with normal and caring people, and I am shocked yet again.
There is never any mention of the culpability of some other person.  Always and only it is the fault of the parents, despite obvious other possibilities.
So when do the parents of a missing child actually matter?

Which other person would that be?

[Brietta]

......and how exactly does this reply answer my post to which you`ve attached it ?

I did not mention any "strategy" to vilify the parents.

The "strategy" I referred to was that employed by those who possibly do not want Madeleine found.

This is the post, in case you are confused.....

If she had not been alive when she left the apartment........which is being considered as a possibility according to SY comments..........then it figures that the removers did not want her found.

Could this have led to a "strategy" designed to prevent her being found?

I think what I have written in reply "In what way did the strategy of the vilification of Madeleine McCann's parents assist in solving her case?" fits the bill entirely.  If you don't like it, that's your prerogative.

Are you saying there has been no strategy of vilification directed at Madeleine McCann's parents and that this has not on occasion indirectly affected Madeleine's case and on occasion direct attempts at interference made?

You admit that there are those "who possibly don't want Madeleine found" ... so who would be better pleased at the strategy of defaming her parents and pulling out all the stops to derail any inquiry into her case?

I don't think anyone who had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance can be a happy bunny today ... they've had a jolly easy ride over the past eight years ... and the unprecedented campaign waged against Madeleine McCann's parents most certainly must have given comfort.

[Alice Purjorick]

I think what I have written in reply "In what way did the strategy of the vilification of Madeleine McCann's parents assist in solving her case?" fits the bill entirely.  If you don't like it, that's your prerogative.

Are you saying there has been no strategy of vilification directed at Madeleine McCann's parents and that this has not on occasion indirectly affected Madeleine's case and on occasion direct attempts at interference made?

You admit that there are those "who possibly don't want Madeleine found" ... so who would be better pleased at the strategy of defaming her parents and pulling out all the stops to derail any inquiry into her case?

I don't think anyone who had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance can be a happy bunny today ... they've had a jolly easy ride over the past eight years ... and the unprecedented campaign waged against Madeleine McCann's parents most certainly must have given comfort.

You clearly believe there has been a strategy. In your opinion has this strategy been implemented by a lone nutter? or is it a carefully coordinated strategy involving a group of people?. What do you suppose is the long term aim for this strategy? Is it not possible that it amounts to little more than a bunch of spiteful people sounding off? A bit like those who behave like a herd of alpacas, toward a well known Portuguese ex detective.

[Carew]

I think what I have written in reply "In what way did the strategy of the vilification of Madeleine McCann's parents assist in solving her case?" fits the bill entirely.  If you don't like it, that's your prerogative.

Are you saying there has been no strategy of vilification directed at Madeleine McCann's parents and that this has not on occasion indirectly affected Madeleine's case and on occasion direct attempts at interference made?

You admit that there are those "who possibly don't want Madeleine found" ... so who would be better pleased at the strategy of defaming her parents and pulling out all the stops to derail any inquiry into her case?

I don't think anyone who had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance can be a happy bunny today ... they've had a jolly easy ride over the past eight years ... and the unprecedented campaign waged against Madeleine McCann's parents most certainly must have given comfort.

Your reply does not relate to my post. Whether I like or dislike it is neither here nor there.

If she had not been alive when she left the apartment........which is being considered as a possibility according to SY comments..........then it figures that the removers did not want her found.

Could this have led to a "strategy" designed to prevent her being found?



Your use of my post on which to attach your own "material," about the vilification of Madeleine`s parents, no matter how loosely connected, is noted.

[Brietta]

You clearly believe there has been a strategy. In your opinion has this strategy been implemented by a lone nutter? or is it a carefully coordinated strategy involving a group of people?. What do you suppose is the long term aim for this strategy? Is it not possible that it amounts to little more than a bunch of spiteful people sounding off? A bit like those who behave like a herd of alpacas, toward a well known Portuguese ex detective.

Do you have any involvement in politics?  If you do you will be aware of the use of social media ... if you don't a little browse into the mire of the political blogs and tweets ... will inform you.

With the defection of a recruiter from fundamental Islamists we have been given a glimpse of the high tech social media recruitment campaign utilised.  Now that one has to be really good ~ "Come and join us for the opportunity to behead a couple of folk then you can do a stint as a suicide bomber" ~ but it seems to be working just fine.
As ordinary folk and their families are getting drowned trying to get away from the mayhem ... these young folk are queuing up to join in.

That there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child is undeniable ... who may actually be pulling the strings is something the police may know or may discover.

[Brietta]

Your reply does not relate to my post. Whether I like or dislike it is neither here nor there.

If she had not been alive when she left the apartment........which is being considered as a possibility according to SY comments..........then it figures that the removers did not want her found.

Could this have led to a "strategy" designed to prevent her being found?



Your use of my post on which to attach your own "material," about the vilification of Madeleine`s parents, no matter how loosely connected, is noted.

OK ... let's take it step by step ... my post was not attached to your post ... it was my reply to your post. 

However your outrage seems to indicate that my "material" has hit a mark and illustrates exactly the type of unwarranted vilification to which Madeleine McCann's parents have been subject for over eight years.

There sure is someone out there who doesn't want Madeleine found ... if you took the blinkers off for a millisecond you might realise it is neither of her parents.

[G-Unit]

Do you have any involvement in politics?  If you do you will be aware of the use of social media ... if you don't a little browse into the mire of the political blogs and tweets ... will inform you.

With the defection of a recruiter from fundamental Islamists we have been given a glimpse of the high tech social media recruitment campaign utilised.  Now that one has to be really good ~ "Come and join us for the opportunity to behead a couple of folk then you can do a stint as a suicide bomber" ~ but it seems to be working just fine.
As ordinary folk and their families are getting drowned trying to get away from the mayhem ... these young folk are queuing up to join in.

That there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child is undeniable ... who may actually be pulling the strings is something the police may know or may discover.

I'll discuss your post Brietta, point by point.

Why would anyone need to be involved in politics to be aware of social media?

Why are political blogs and tweets described by you as 'mire'? Where are they so we can see them.

ISIS recruiters use social media do they? I don't really know anything about that.

If 'there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child' where are they?

Do you have any basis for saying that someone is 'pulling the strings'? Please provide more information to support thia allegation.

[ShiningInLuz]

Funnily enough, I did get that sort of vibe off you, it seems this case attracts a lot of people with zero empathy - I wonder why?

Oddly enough, I see the case as being many people vehemently against the McCanns or vehemently for the McCanns.  A major driver appears to be behavioural analysis.

Given my lack of empathy, I am not feeling for either side on this basis.

[Benice]

I'll discuss your post Brietta, point by point.

Why would anyone need to be involved in politics to be aware of social media?

Why are political blogs and tweets described by you as 'mire'? Where are they so we can see them.

ISIS recruiters use social media do they? I don't really know anything about that.

If 'there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child' where are they?

Do you have any basis for saying that someone is 'pulling the strings'? Please provide more information to support thia allegation.

I would say that spreading the word amongst sceptics via various forums that a newspaper article is open for comments and encouraging fellow sceptics to go and leave comments is a form of organised malice.

[Brietta]

I'll discuss your post Brietta, point by point.

Why would anyone need to be involved in politics to be aware of social media?

Why are political blogs and tweets described by you as 'mire'? Where are they so we can see them.

ISIS recruiters use social media do they? I don't really know anything about that.

If 'there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child' where are they?

Do you have any basis for saying that someone is 'pulling the strings'? Please provide more information to support thia allegation.

Why would anyone need to be involved in politics to be aware of social media?

I fail to see the point of your question, although I'm sure you have one.


Why are political blogs and tweets described by you as 'mire'? Where are they so we can see them.

You mean you have read nothing from#mccann?


ISIS recruiters use social media do they? I don't really know anything about that.

Hmmm … current affairs not really your thing then, glad I was able to inform.


If 'there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child' where are they?

New to the internet are you?  Just type in Madeleine McCann and see what interesting places you can visit … then you may already be familiar with them and find it all quite innocuous … who can tell?


Do you have any basis for saying that someone is 'pulling the strings'? Please provide more information to support thia allegation.

LOL … at exactly the same moment in time … some individuals think it a good idea to set up a petition on …………… fill in the blanks. 

Then at exactly the same moment in time individuals independently come up with the idea of bombarding the phone lines of a television programme seeking information about a missing child.

Organised and coordinated cyber attacks on charity websites.

Organised and coordinated attacks on newspaper comments to the extent many newspapers no longer allow comments on a McCann article.
 
Is someone pulling the strings or are they the forerunners of ~
Telepathy-like brain-to-brain communication achieved across 5000 miles: What does it mean?
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/15103/20140908/telepathy-like-brain-to-brain-communication-achieved-across-5000-miles-what-does-it-mean.htm

Just for information ... debate does not consist of firing off a string of questions ... it goes along the lines of starting a sentence along the lines of ...
"I do not agree with what you have said because .............."  If you try it you may find it a more constructive and satisfying approach.

[Alice Purjorick]

Do you have any involvement in politics?  If you do you will be aware of the use of social media ... if you don't a little browse into the mire of the political blogs and tweets ... will inform you.

With the defection of a recruiter from fundamental Islamists we have been given a glimpse of the high tech social media recruitment campaign utilised.  Now that one has to be really good ~ "Come and join us for the opportunity to behead a couple of folk then you can do a stint as a suicide bomber" ~ but it seems to be working just fine.
As ordinary folk and their families are getting drowned trying to get away from the mayhem ... these young folk are queuing up to join in.

That there are organised campaigns of malice directed towards the parents of a missing child is undeniable ... who may actually be pulling the strings is something the police may know or may discover.

Most of it has gone over my head as you have failed to address the question with a load of nebulous hooha.
As for the highlighted bit ; well the last time a dossier was presented to the law as being "the smoking gun" the cops and CPS metaphorically laughed in the face of the presenters.

[Brietta]

Most of it has gone over my head as you have failed to address the question with a load of nebulous hooha.
As for the highlighted bit ; well the last time a dossier was presented to the law as being "the smoking gun" the cops and CPS metaphorically laughed in the face of the presenters.

"well the last time a dossier was presented to the law as being "the smoking gun" the cops and CPS metaphorically laughed in the face of the presenters."

Nothing exemplifies the disdain in which the parents of a missing child are held by the Leicestershire Police and CPS than the lack of action on this and the attacks on Madeleine McCann's parents without let up over the past eight years.

It takes a special kind of person to revel in that level of abuse being tolerated and allowed to continue without let or hindrance by the authorities.