Author Topic: The parents of a missing child don't matter.  (Read 164847 times)

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Offline carlymichelle

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #255 on: June 03, 2015, 03:46:47 PM »
Is that not a little off topic?

not  for her @)(++(*

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #256 on: June 03, 2015, 03:58:09 PM »
Again I feel you are missing the point.  It was you who asked for evidence of pathological hatred of the McCanns on the Funding Page.  When these were pointed out to you, you seemed to think these were all very reasonable and moderate points of view being expressed and not remotely trollish,  which is why I asked you to imagine how you would view those comments if they were directed at you, knowing that you were innocent yourself.  Maybe you genuinely wouldn't be bothered by them, though I find that extremely hard to believe.  Nobody likes to be falsely accused and abused, even if it is "only" by 1000 people on the internet!

It was Brietta who said the comments displayed 'pathological hatred'. I questioned that because 'pathological' suggests mental or physical illness, and I can see no evidence of either. She then tried to suggest she was using 'pathological' in an everyday manner, and quoted a definition which was in a psychiatric area of a dictionary, which also suggests it's related to mental illness.

I have said that it must be unpleasant for innocent people to be accused. If the McCanns are innocent perhaps
they could do more to demonstrate that. People don't doubt them because of a book, they doubt them because of their actions and statements. They created the doubts, no-one else did it. There's your causal connection.
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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #257 on: June 03, 2015, 04:29:42 PM »
It was Brietta who said the comments displayed 'pathological hatred'. I questioned that because 'pathological' suggests mental or physical illness, and I can see no evidence of either. She then tried to suggest she was using 'pathological' in an everyday manner, and quoted a definition which was in a psychiatric area of a dictionary, which also suggests it's related to mental illness.

I have said that it must be unpleasant for innocent people to be accused. If the McCanns are innocent perhaps
they could do more to demonstrate that.
People don't doubt them because of a book, they doubt them because of their actions and statements. They created the doubts, no-one else did it. There's your causal connection.
So even if the McCanns are 100% innocent, all the shit directed at them is their fault anyway!!  Gotta love your rationalisation for the hate campaign!  8((()*/

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #258 on: June 03, 2015, 04:42:27 PM »
It is unfortunate if innocent people are being doubted, but there is no causal connection between Amaral's book and the doubts. People doubted the McCanns before the release of the PJ Files and before the publication of Amaral's book.

It is unfortunate as well as despicable to mount an eight year campaign of vilification against the parents of a missing child based on pathological dislike and nothing more.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #259 on: June 03, 2015, 05:16:48 PM »
It doesn't count for Sr Amaral is Beelzebub incarnate, allegedly.

Not at all ... if you read the comments there are those who appear to have opinions raising Mr Amaral above sainthood, sometimes with sometimes without an accompanying nasty dig at Madeleine's parents.


Billy Goat-Gruff   
Had the McCann's put half the effort Goncalo & the PJ into the search for Madeleine instead of pedalling their ridiculous story around the world, the case would have been solved in 8 weeks - never mind 8 years & counting
£12


Billy Goat-Gruff seems to miss the point that Mr Amaral was the person with the greatest chance of solving Madeleine's case in eight weeks since he was coordinating the case right from the Golden Hours and determined the investigative strategy.

Seems to be some sort of transference of responsibility in BGG's narrative ... unless it is the norm that parents of missing children should be responsible for doing the job of law enforcement.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #260 on: June 03, 2015, 05:18:49 PM »
So even if the McCanns are 100% innocent, all the shit directed at them is their fault anyway!!  Gotta love your rationalisation for the hate campaign!  8((()*/

If they're innocent they've done a really good job of suggesting otherwise. If these 'intelligent' people can't work out what they've done wrong then I would have to question their intelligence - it's all out there if they really want to know.
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Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #261 on: June 03, 2015, 05:26:03 PM »
It was Brietta who said the comments displayed 'pathological hatred'. I questioned that because 'pathological' suggests mental or physical illness, and I can see no evidence of either. She then tried to suggest she was using 'pathological' in an everyday manner, and quoted a definition which was in a psychiatric area of a dictionary, which also suggests it's related to mental illness.

I have said that it must be unpleasant for innocent people to be accused. If the McCanns are innocent perhaps
they could do more to demonstrate that. People don't doubt them because of a book, they doubt them because of their actions and statements. They created the doubts, no-one else did it. There's your causal connection.


                        "It was Brietta who said the comments displayed 'pathological hatred'."


That sounds sooooo much like  " ... a big boy dunnit and ran away ...".  Some of the people making these comments care nothing about the sheer nastiness being displayed to people who have suffered more than can be imagined (there's that empathy thing again) and sadly, have no idea the way in which it reveals them for what they are to a casual observer.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #262 on: June 03, 2015, 05:27:13 PM »
Not at all ... if you read the comments there are those who appear to have opinions raising Mr Amaral above sainthood, sometimes with sometimes without an accompanying nasty dig at Madeleine's parents.


Billy Goat-Gruff   
Had the McCann's put half the effort Goncalo & the PJ into the search for Madeleine instead of pedalling their ridiculous story around the world, the case would have been solved in 8 weeks - never mind 8 years & counting
£12


Billy Goat-Gruff seems to miss the point that Mr Amaral was the person with the greatest chance of solving Madeleine's case in eight weeks since he was coordinating the case right from the Golden Hours and determined the investigative strategy.

Seems to be some sort of transference of responsibility in BGG's narrative ... unless it is the norm that parents of missing children should be responsible for doing the job of law enforcement.

I see not the suggestion that Sr Amaral should be beatified. Ignoring the fact he remains alive so probably would not, on those grounds, qualify anyway.

This is an interesting fundraiser which kind of like shades all the rest of the trollocks about fund raising on here.
It tops out at £98K raised by 27 people.
http://www.everydayhero.co.uk/event/cyclemadagascar/top_ten
http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/Launch.aspx?PBID=fd43d530-29cf-4e45-97e3-b093db37d8f0
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #263 on: June 03, 2015, 05:37:05 PM »
It is unfortunate as well as despicable to mount an eight year campaign of vilification against the parents of a missing child based on pathological dislike and nothing more.

Your posts are always entertaining if rather tiresomely repetitious. While some on the internet may be suffering from a pathological condition you are not qualified to diagnose them as far as I know. Not everyone believes the McCanns, That's a fact and no matter how many names you or The Star call them that won't change unless the case is solved and someone is successfully prosecuted for whatever crime was committed.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #264 on: June 03, 2015, 05:39:31 PM »
If they're innocent they've done a really good job of suggesting otherwise. If these 'intelligent' people can't work out what they've done wrong then I would have to question their intelligence - it's all out there if they really want to know.
Have you ever considered the possibility that it's you and your fellow "sceptics"  that have done a really good job of convincing yourselves of the McCanns' guilt and not the McCanns themselves?  I am intelligent and I don't think the McCanns dunnit.  How do you explain that phenomenon?


Offline Mr Gray

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #265 on: June 03, 2015, 05:42:00 PM »
Your posts are always entertaining if rather tiresomely repetitious. While some on the internet may be suffering from a pathological condition you are not qualified to diagnose them as far as I know. Not everyone believes the McCanns, That's a fact and no matter how many names you or The Star call them that won't change unless the case is solved and someone is successfully prosecuted for whatever crime was committed.

You are wrong on so many things .....even if someone was successfully prosecuted there would still be some who would still think the mcanns were guilty.... Nutters on the net

Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #266 on: June 03, 2015, 05:43:48 PM »
You are wrong on so many things .....even if someone was successfully prosecuted there would still be some who would still think the mc and were guilty.... Nutters on the net
Yup, in the same way that Gonc's Barmy Army refuse to accept the ruling of a Portuguese Judge, so too would the same people refuse to accept the due process of the law if it were directed at anyone else apart from the McCanns in their daughter's disappearance.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #267 on: June 03, 2015, 05:48:40 PM »
Have you ever considered the possibility that it's you and your fellow "sceptics"  that have done a really good job of convincing yourselves of the McCanns' guilt and not the McCanns themselves?  I am intelligent and I don't think the McCanns dunnit.  How do you explain that phenomenon?

Had there been no strangeness in their stories there would be no doubts. I can't tell you why your intelligence is directed to supporting a couple whose stories don't add up, only you can.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #268 on: June 03, 2015, 05:51:00 PM »
Had there been no strangeness in their stories there would be no doubts. I can't tell you why your intelligence is directed to supporting a couple whose stories don't add up, only you can.
Dear me, G, if the McCanns stories did not add up they would be arguidos again, can you rationalise why they are not?  Please use your undoubted intelligence to explain that to us.

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #269 on: June 03, 2015, 05:56:51 PM »
Your posts are always entertaining if rather tiresomely repetitious. While some on the internet may be suffering from a pathological condition you are not qualified to diagnose them as far as I know. Not everyone believes the McCanns, That's a fact and no matter how many names you or The Star call them that won't change unless the case is solved and someone is successfully prosecuted for whatever crime was committed.

Let me see now  &%+((£ pathological liar ~ pathological hatred ~ pathological compulsion ~ pathological obsession ~ et all cannot be used unless unless one has a qualification determined by you ??

Just as you have it entirely wrong on your defence of the abuse of the parents of a missing child ~ you have it entirely wrong on the usage of the English Language ... don't rely on the on-line dictionary in the attempt to support your prejudices try listening to colloquial language, or even English as it is spoke.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....