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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #450 on: June 13, 2015, 08:37:15 AM »
History is full of accepted beliefs that have been proved wrong.

P.S. You could also have...
All true but beside the point I was making.  Currently the accepted belief is that Madeleine was abducted.  That being the case there is currently no onus on the McCanns to try and win over the minority who don't accept it.

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #451 on: June 13, 2015, 09:59:20 AM »
I don't know Brietta, but I do know that the McCanns have failed to convince some people. It's just one of the reasons why people doubt them and therefore don't sympathise, which is the subject I was addressing.

That the McCanns have failed to convince you is patently obvious ... then why should anyone think you know better than Scotland Yard and the Polícia Judiciária?

You are unable to define what the behaviour of parents whose child had been stolen should be ... yet you use it pejoratively in your argument.  Odd.

The main thing is that Madeleine is being looked for and looked for officially ... a situation which hasn't been happening since Mr Amaral first promulgated his theory and decided her parents dunnit whatever 'it' may have been.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #452 on: June 13, 2015, 11:15:11 AM »
All true but beside the point I was making.  Currently the accepted belief is that Madeleine was abducted.  That being the case there is currently no onus on the McCanns to try and win over the minority who don't accept it.

They just financially beat them up instead.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #453 on: June 13, 2015, 11:53:03 AM »
They just financial beat them up instead.
How much money have they extracted from you after beating you up then?

stephen25000

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #454 on: June 13, 2015, 12:02:13 PM »
All true but beside the point I was making.  Currently the accepted belief is that Madeleine was abducted.  That being the case there is currently no onus on the McCanns to try and win over the minority who don't accept it.

Really, so a belief carries more weight than evidence then. 8(0(*

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #455 on: June 13, 2015, 12:17:25 PM »
That the McCanns have failed to convince you is patently obvious ... then why should anyone think you know better than Scotland Yard and the Polícia Judiciária?

You are unable to define what the behaviour of parents whose child had been stolen should be ... yet you use it pejoratively in your argument.  Odd.

The main thing is that Madeleine is being looked for and looked for officially ... a situation which hasn't been happening since Mr Amaral first promulgated his theory and decided her parents dunnit whatever 'it' may have been.

As we don't know what SY and the PJ are thinking there's not a lot of point in mentioning them. If SY have been looking for Madeleine then they seem to have suspected she may have been hiding underground in PdL. The theory was not Snr Amaral's theory it was the theory of the team. The investigators continued to investigate until 2008 after he was taken off the investigation. I don't need to explain how parents of a stolen child should behave because all I'm saying is that some people think their behaviour wasn't quite right. Their views can be seen on all those websites which keep being mentioned.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #456 on: June 13, 2015, 12:39:12 PM »
As we don't know what SY and the PJ are thinking there's not a lot of point in mentioning them. If SY have been looking for Madeleine then they seem to have suspected she may have been hiding underground in PdL. The theory was not Snr Amaral's theory it was the theory of the team. The investigators continued to investigate until 2008 after he was taken off the investigation. I don't need to explain how parents of a stolen child should behave because all I'm saying is that some people think their behaviour wasn't quite right. Their views can be seen on all those websites which keep being mentioned.

Please let us get one thing straight and put your reasoning and your suspicions and just plain distaste for Madeleine McCann's parents into proper perspective.

In 2015 Scotland Yard and the Polícia Judiciária are still playing 'catch up' with ignored evidence stemming from the botched investigation of 2007.
They have absolutely no interest in Madeleine McCann's parents ... and there are arguidos in the case, who under the law advantage of which the McCanns were denied, could only be made arguidos on the basis of evidence to enable it.

Your views ~ my views ~ the views of other armchair detectives on whichever website ~ mean absolutely nothing at all: all hot air.
The only people who matter in this are the professionals ... that what they have said and what they are doing doesn't fit your particular agenda is a problem for you ... and even more of a problem for anyone associated with the crime against Madeleine McCann.


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #457 on: June 13, 2015, 12:52:17 PM »
Please let us get one thing straight and put your reasoning and your suspicions and just plain distaste for Madeleine McCann's parents into proper perspective.

In 2015 Scotland Yard and the Polícia Judiciária are still playing 'catch up' with ignored evidence stemming from the botched investigation of 2007.
They have absolutely no interest in Madeleine McCann's parents ... and there are arguidos in the case, who under the law advantage of which the McCanns were denied, could only be made arguidos on the basis of evidence to enable it.

Your views ~ my views ~ the views of other armchair detectives on whichever website ~ mean absolutely nothing at all: all hot air.
The only people who matter in this are the professionals ... that what they have said and what they are doing doesn't fit your particular agenda is a problem for you ... and even more of a problem for anyone associated with the crime against Madeleine McCann.

Perhaps you would be kind enough to demonstrate the veracity of that statement.
It could otherwise  be  just another of your unsubstantiated assertions.
Ignoring for a moment the wonderfully emotive terms you tend to use are you seriously suggesting that after four years of Met Review and two years of Portuguese review they are not even in square one yet?
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stephen25000

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #458 on: June 13, 2015, 01:55:36 PM »
All true but beside the point I was making.  Currently the accepted belief is that Madeleine was abducted.  That being the case there is currently no onus on the McCanns to try and win over the minority who don't accept it.

How do you know it is a minority ?

i.e. Who do you think  this majority are who believe in 'abduction' ?

Offline G-Unit

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #459 on: June 13, 2015, 02:09:05 PM »
Please let us get one thing straight and put your reasoning and your suspicions and just plain distaste for Madeleine McCann's parents into proper perspective.

In 2015 Scotland Yard and the Polícia Judiciária are still playing 'catch up' with ignored evidence stemming from the botched investigation of 2007.
They have absolutely no interest in Madeleine McCann's parents ... and there are arguidos in the case, who under the law advantage of which the McCanns were denied, could only be made arguidos on the basis of evidence to enable it.

Your views ~ my views ~ the views of other armchair detectives on whichever website ~ mean absolutely nothing at all: all hot air.
The only people who matter in this are the professionals ... that what they have said and what they are doing doesn't fit your particular agenda is a problem for you ... and even more of a problem for anyone associated with the crime against Madeleine McCann.

I'm only saying what people think. I wonder why it upsets you so much? Denying it or attacking me won't change anyone's opinions, but, as you say, our opinions are just so much hot air. My only agenda is to remind people that the parents have behaved in such a way as to arouse suspicion. You assume that what the police are doing fits your agenda, but as they haven't said I don't know how you can claim to be so sure.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #460 on: June 13, 2015, 02:12:33 PM »
I'm only saying what people think. I wonder why it upsets you so much? Denying it or attacking me won't change anyone's opinions, but, as you say, our opinions are just so much hot air. My only agenda is to remind people that the parents have behaved in such a way as to arouse suspicion. You assume that what the police are doing fits your agenda, but as they haven't said I don't know how you can claim to be so sure.
Re: the bit in bold: why do you feel it is incumbent on you to do this?

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« Reply #461 on: June 13, 2015, 02:18:26 PM »
Re: the bit in bold: why do you feel it is incumbent on you to do this?

Why do others feel it's incumbent upon them to excuse and explain every facet of the parent's behaviour?
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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #462 on: June 13, 2015, 02:19:03 PM »
Why do others feel it's incumbent upon them to excuse and explain every facet of the parent's behaviour?
I don't, now please answer my question.

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Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #463 on: June 13, 2015, 03:16:52 PM »
Perhaps you would be kind enough to demonstrate the veracity of that statement.
It could otherwise  be  just another of your unsubstantiated assertions.
Ignoring for a moment the wonderfully emotive terms you tend to use are you seriously suggesting that after four years of Met Review and two years of Portuguese review they are not even in square one yet?

                                                                 What requires verification?

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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: The parents of a missing child don't matter.
« Reply #464 on: June 13, 2015, 03:21:16 PM »
I'm only saying what people think. I wonder why it upsets you so much? Denying it or attacking me won't change anyone's opinions, but, as you say, our opinions are just so much hot air. My only agenda is to remind people that the parents have behaved in such a way as to arouse suspicion. You assume that what the police are doing fits your agenda, but as they haven't said I don't know how you can claim to be so sure.

Are you too embarrassed to say it is what you think too ... or just another display of "a big boy did it and ran away" syndrome?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....