The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[Alice Purjorick]

haven't you seen the message....you may sign in with your facebook account....quite innocuous at first glance

Which message where ?
Facebook can access your address book that's why I don't "belong".

[Mr Gray]

Which message where ?
Facebook can access your address book that's why I don't "belong".

you may not use the net as much as others but more and more sites allow you to sign in using Facebook....this gives them access to your list of friends

[Mr Gray]

So we 'sceptics' are luring the unaware to our cause like some latter day child catchers, is that what you're saying ?

 Tell me Alfie how do we recruit these individuals previously unblemished by any doubts about the McCanns ?

if you tell people lies...such as the dogs detected a dead body.......then you are recruiting

[Alfred R Jones]

If you are daft enough to sign up to a system that wants access to your email address book then ......?
One could of course, were one a trusting soul, create a specific email account for facebook with nowt else in it.

It's got nothing to do with e-mail addresses.

[Alfred R Jones]

I trust these Scottish MSPs will receive equal amounts of scorn and derision from Faithlilly et al?

Dundee
Call for UK police to investigate Cyprus abduction attempt claims
By Mark Mackay, 20 June 2015 8.25am.


 There have been calls for UK officers to assist Cypriot police with the investigation.Supplied

Terrifying allegations of child abduction abroad should be investigated by UK police amidst claims of a cover-up, Scots MSPs have said.

Authorities have poured scorn on statements made by a Dundee man – and other tourists from Scotland – that a gang of child snatchers attempted to seize youngsters at a holiday resort in Cyprus.

That has sparked fears that the incident has not been treated seriously – and Scots politicians have now risked a diplomatic furore by calling for UK intervention in the investigation.

Liz Smith MSP said it was “perfectly in order” for the tourists to seek help from UK police if they are concerned by Cypriot handling of the incident.

Colleague Alex Johnstone MSP pledged to raise the matter at Westminster in light of concerns.

[faithlilly]

Do you deny that there is a concerted effort by the likes of Poulton, Bennett, Blacksmith et al to "educate the masses of sheeple" who have been "indoctrinated" by the "McCann-biased MSM" ?  Do you deny that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook groups about the case, sometimes without their knowledge?  Do you deny that there are countless individuals who have claimed on social media that they had fallen for the "McCann Scam" until they'd joined one of these groups and been shown the error of their ways?  If you want to describe these people  and organised sceptic groups as child-catchers then those are your words not mine.

Firstly I have seen no 'concentrated effort' by anyone to educate the masses. I have seen individuals express in public their doubts about the McCanns and individuals with the same doubts agreeing. That their opinions doesn't match yours is unfortunate but hey, that's democracy for you.

Secondly claiming that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook pages without their knowledge is a serious allegation and one I hope you can back up with a cite.

Thirdly no one joins a sceptic group unless they have had serious doubts about the perceived narrative already, why would they ?

[Mr Gray]

Firstly I have seen no 'concentrated effort' by anyone to educate the masses. I have seen individuals express in public their doubts about the McCanns and individuals with the same doubts agreeing. That their opinions doesn't match yours is unfortunate but hey, that's democracy for you.

Secondly claiming that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook pages without their knowledge is a serious allegation and one I hope you can back up with a cite.

Thirdly no one joins a sceptic group unless they have had serious doubts about the perceived narrative already, why would they ?

claiming that the McCanns have lied to the police....have covered up Maddies death ...have committed fraud through the fund..is a serious allegation

[faithlilly]

I trust these Scottish MSPs will receive equal amounts of scorn and derision from Faithlilly et al?

Dundee
Call for UK police to investigate Cyprus abduction attempt claims
By Mark Mackay, 20 June 2015 8.25am.


 There have been calls for UK officers to assist Cypriot police with the investigation.Supplied

Terrifying allegations of child abduction abroad should be investigated by UK police amidst claims of a cover-up, Scots MSPs have said.

Authorities have poured scorn on statements made by a Dundee man – and other tourists from Scotland – that a gang of child snatchers attempted to seize youngsters at a holiday resort in Cyprus.

That has sparked fears that the incident has not been treated seriously – and Scots politicians have now risked a diplomatic furore by calling for UK intervention in the investigation.

Liz Smith MSP said it was “perfectly in order” for the tourists to seek help from UK police if they are concerned by Cypriot handling of the incident.

Colleague Alex Johnstone MSP pledged to raise the matter at Westminster in light of concerns.

No direct quotes then.

[Alfred R Jones]

Firstly I have seen no 'concentrated effort' by anyone to educate the masses. I have seen individuals express in public their doubts about the McCanns and individuals with the same doubts agreeing. That their opinions doesn't match yours is unfortunate but hey, that's democracy for you.

Secondly claiming that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook pages without their knowledge is a serious allegation and one I hope you can back up with a cite.

Thirdly no one joins a sceptic group unless they have had serious doubts about the perceived narrative already, why would they ?

Firstly, well you would say that wouldn't you?
Secondly, my cite will be forthcoming once I've had your cite (previously requested by me) for the hundreds of thousands of people that liked the OFM FB page almost overnight. Inciddentally I didn't claim 100s had been added without their knowledge, re-read my post.
Thirdly, are you telling me that no one has ever joined a sceptic group (wittingly or unwittingly) out of curiosity or because a friend was already in the group and added them without their asking? 

[Alfred R Jones]

No direct quotes then.

So the Courier newspaper is lying? 

[Alfred R Jones]

The strapline of Jill Havern's Forum is

What really happened to Madeleine McCann?

Why not join our forum and help search for the truth?

That is a recruitment advertisement is it not?

[Alfred R Jones]

Madeleine McCann: Unite For Justice (scary overtones of a movement there if ever I heard one) FB Page says:

Please join us in our search for truth and justice for Madeleine McCann

Actively seeking new members, yes?

[Alfred R Jones]

Controversy FB page has a long ranting introduction culminating in:

If you're not angry yet, you're not paying attention!

We are. Join us if you are too. We WILL NOT allow a cover up.

WE WANT ANSWERS!

Please join us and refuse to accept a whitewash, or a dead criminal being fitted up for an abduction that never happened. (The latter has been attempted more than once.)


That's actively seeking to recruit new members as far as I can see...

[faithlilly]

Firstly, well you would say that wouldn't you?
Secondly, my cite will be forthcoming once I've had your cite (previously requested by me) for the hundreds of thousands of people that liked the OFM FB page almost overnight. Inciddentally I didn't claim 100s had been added without their knowledge, re-read my post.
Thirdly, are you telling me that no one has ever joined a sceptic group (wittingly or unwittingly) out of curiosity or because a friend was already in the group and added them without their asking?

Firstly of course I would because it's true.

Secondly this is what you said 'Do you deny that hundreds of people have been added to Facebook groups about the case, sometimes without their knowledge?.' So how many do you think have been added to Facebook groups 'without their knowledge' Alfie.

As to your third point when a friend adds you to a Facebook group you are informed and can leave if you wish.

[faithlilly]

Controversy FB page has a long ranting introduction culminating in:

If you're not angry yet, you're not paying attention!

We are. Join us if you are too. We WILL NOT allow a cover up.

WE WANT ANSWERS!

Please join us and refuse to accept a whitewash, or a dead criminal being fitted up for an abduction that never happened. (The latter has been attempted more than once.)



Not sure what you point is Alfie.
That's actively seeking to recruit new members as far as I can see...