The parents of a missing child don't matter.

[Anna]

What about the parents now? Is there anything that shouldn't be said about them?

[ferryman]

What about the parents now? Is there anything that shouldn't be said about them?

On no account should anyone suggest that they might be innocent, of dastardly and heinous crimes against their loved and cherished daughter ....

[mercury]

On no account should anyone suggest that they might be innocent, of dastardly and heinous crimes against their loved and cherished daughter ....

Dramatics!
Several people on here including myself have stated exactly that, as no one knows, Keep it honest  please.

 

[G-Unit]

On no account should anyone suggest that they might be innocent, of dastardly and heinous crimes against their loved and cherished daughter ....

Dastardly and heinous? That's a bit harsh as even the PJ suggested only that MM had a fatal accident.

How do you love and cherish a child? Take her on holiday and see her only at mealtimes? Leave her alone with her siblings every night while you go out with your friends? That's not how most people do it, despite claims to the contrary.

[Miss Taken Identity]

On no account should anyone suggest that they might be innocent, of dastardly and heinous crimes against their loved and cherished daughter ....

How many people on here have accused the parents of "dastardly and heinous crimes against their loved and cherished daughter ...." ? Are you posting on the right forum?  Or are you trying to create a link/association to those who have an unhealthy obsession, with nasty intentions towards the family of Maddie?

The parents behaviour suggests differently. " Mummy where were you.... " Child asks parents where they were when children woke up crying...they do not reply to the child? seriously? OK lol. So after that heart churning concern from a 3 year old- they ignore her and do it again... very loving very cherishing behaviour?

 Hmm No!

[Benice]

Dastardly and heinous? That's a bit harsh as even the PJ suggested only that MM had a fatal accident.

How do you love and cherish a child? Take her on holiday and see her only at mealtimes? Leave her alone with her siblings every night while you go out with your friends? That's not how most people do it, despite claims to the contrary.

If that was the case there would be no Kiddies clubs, creches or listening services in any holiday resort.  They are there because there is a demand for them by a very large number of PARENTS - who also love and cherish their children. 

What about the folk who leave their children alone every night and just take a baby alarm out with them - and don't make any physical checks at all?  And all the thousands of other parents who have left their children asleep but  made regular checks on them?

They do it (and some still do) because they think it's safe - in the same way the McCanns thought it was safe.

Why do sceptics never even acknowledge the existence of these hundreds of thousands of other parents?  Let alone criticise them.

IMO the constant singling out of the McCanns as if they were the ONLY people in the world to have ever left their children asleep and gone to dinner is totally irrational -  and so is the inference that signing children up for a creche/ Kiddies club is something that only parents who did not love and cherish their children would do.  And particularly irrational IMO is the idea that it is ONLY the McCanns who must be villified because of their childcare arrangements.     That mindset makes no sense to me.

The only difference between the McCanns and those other parents is that none of their children were targetted by an abductor.   They were the lucky ones - as I am certain many of them would acknowledge.

There for the Grace of God.............etc



   

[Miss Taken Identity]

If that was the case there would be no Kiddies clubs, creches or listening services in any holiday resort.  They are there because there is a demand for them by a very large number of PARENTS - who also love and cherish their children. 

What about the folk who leave their children alone every night and just take a baby alarm out with them - and don't make any physical checks at all?  And all the thousands of other parents who have left their children asleep but  made regular checks on them?

They do it (and some still do) because they think it's safe - in the same way the McCanns thought it was safe.

Why do sceptics never even acknowledge the existence of these hundreds of thousands of other parents?  Let alone criticise them.

IMO the constant singling out of the McCanns as if they were the ONLY people in the world to have ever left their children asleep and gone to dinner is totally irrational -  and so is the inference that signing children up for a creche/ Kiddies club is something that only parents who did not love and cherish their children would do.  And particularly irrational IMO is the idea that it is ONLY the McCanns who must be villified because of their childcare arrangements.     That mindset makes no sense to me.

The only difference between the McCanns and those other parents is that none of their children were targetted by an abductor.   They were the lucky ones - as I am certain many of them would acknowledge.

There for the Grace of God.............etc



 

Yes, what about those parents doing that? what should be done if their child is 'abducted'? well, nothng according to you and people of your ilk. Just one of those things huh? part of growing up huh? bit of bad luck eh?

anyway... two wrongs do not make a right!

[Alfred R Jones]

Dastardly and heinous? That's a bit harsh as even the PJ suggested only that MM had a fatal accident.

How do you love and cherish a child? Take her on holiday and see her only at mealtimes? Leave her alone with her siblings every night while you go out with your friends? That's not how most people do it, despite claims to the contrary.

So you don't think covering up the death of your child, sticking her body in a bin or down a hole, and then launching a worldwide search for her and appealing for funds to do so would be classed as dastardly or heinous?

Interesting.

[Benice]

Yes, what about those parents doing that? what should be done if their child is 'abducted'? well, nothng according to you and people of your ilk. Just one of those things huh? part of growing up huh? bit of bad luck eh?

anyway... two wrongs do not make a right!

Sorry but I have no idea what you are talking about.  IMO your post bears no relation to anything in my post.
Care to elucidate?

[Miss Taken Identity]

So you don't think covering up the death of your child, sticking her body in a bin or down a hole, and then launching a worldwide search for her and appealing for funds to do so would be classed as dastardly or heinous?

Interesting.

That was said on this site? by a poster?  could I have a link to that please.

Thank you in advance.

[Lace]

Dastardly and heinous? That's a bit harsh as even the PJ suggested only that MM had a fatal accident.

How do you love and cherish a child? Take her on holiday and see her only at mealtimes? Leave her alone with her siblings every night while you go out with your friends? That's not how most people do it, despite claims to the contrary.

I wouldn't put my children in a crèche,  but I wouldn't call people who do unloving to their children either.

I have friends who put their children in  a kids club when I went on holiday with them,   actually the children wanted to join in with the other children,  who were putting on shows where we were staying.

The McCann's had had one holiday that year already where they had gone to Ireland and by the look of it Madeleine and the twins had had a lovely time there,  they went to the beach and paddled in the sea.

So their trip to Portugal could have been a holiday where the parents would get a bit of 'me time'   indeed they were having tennis lessons.   I don't see anything wrong with that,  the parents worked hard they deserved some me time I think.

The children were not unhappy going to the crèche,  believe you me if any of my children didn't want to go somewhere you would hear all about it.   I haven't read anything to suggest the children cried when they were taken there,  as a matter of fact Kate says herself that Madeleine asked to go back to the crèche after their trip to the beach.

The kids clubs by the sound of it did a lot of activities with the children to keep the happy and occupied.   Children love other children and they love playing with other children,   they went to the beach and even went on a boat,  would they have gone on a boat if they hadn't gone to the crèche?

Some parents leave their children with grandparents to go off for a break by themselves is that being unloving and not cherishing your children?

[G-Unit]

I wouldn't put my children in a crèche,  but I wouldn't call people who do unloving to their children either.

I have friends who put their children in  a kids club when I went on holiday with them,   actually the children wanted to join in with the other children,  who were putting on shows where we were staying.

The McCann's had had one holiday that year already where they had gone to Ireland and by the look of it Madeleine and the twins had had a lovely time there,  they went to the beach and paddled in the sea.

So their trip to Portugal could have been a holiday where the parents would get a bit of 'me time'   indeed they were having tennis lessons.   I don't see anything wrong with that,  the parents worked hard they deserved some me time I think.

The children were not unhappy going to the crèche,  believe you me if any of my children didn't want to go somewhere you would hear all about it.   I haven't read anything to suggest the children cried when they were taken there,  as a matter of fact Kate says herself that Madeleine asked to go back to the crèche after their trip to the beach.

The kids clubs by the sound of it did a lot of activities with the children to keep the happy and occupied.   Children love other children and they love playing with other children,   they went to the beach and even went on a boat,  would they have gone on a boat if they hadn't gone to the crèche?

Some parents leave their children with grandparents to go off for a break by themselves is that being unloving and not cherishing your children?

If children are used to being put into creches so parents can work/shop/whatever they will know that objecting gets them nowhere. I find it sad that parents take their children abroad and put them in a creche. No exploring the local culture, no visiting local attractions, no fun with Mum and Dad. They might as well be with relatives back home who would give them some attention. The twins had a much better time when their aunt arrived and kept them out of the creche in the afternoons so they could go on outings to the zoo. etc. She seemed to have the same outlook on childcare as I do.

In the afternoons we would go out with the children, I didnt think it was a good idea for them to be in the creche for the whole day, we tried to maintain a routine in order to give them a sense of normality.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm

[Alfred R Jones]

That was said on this site? by a poster?  could I have a link to that please.

Thank you in advance.

  You're not allowed to SAY it, but you are allowed to INFER it and to use euphemisms to skirt around it.  Are you actually of the belief that no one on here believes the parents covered up the child's death?!

[Alfred R Jones]

If children are used to being put into creches so parents can work/shop/whatever they will know that objecting gets them nowhere. I find it sad that parents take their children abroad and put them in a creche. No exploring the local culture, no visiting local attractions, no fun with Mum and Dad. They might as well be with relatives back home who would give them some attention. The twins had a much better time when their aunt arrived and kept them out of the creche in the afternoons so they could go on outings to the zoo. etc. She seemed to have the same outlook on childcare as I do.

In the afternoons we would go out with the children, I didnt think it was a good idea for them to be in the creche for the whole day, we tried to maintain a routine in order to give them a sense of normality.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm

May I ask what you personally gain from regularly criticising the McCanns' parenting skills and comparing them unfavourably to your own?

[G-Unit]

May I ask what you personally gain from regularly criticising the McCanns' parenting skills and comparing them unfavourably to your own?

Why would I personally gain, and why would I want to gain? I mention their (lack of) parenting skills because others constantly refer to them as loving parents who cherished their adored children. Funny way of showing it imo. Old sayings spring to mind; 'handsome is as handsome does'or 'actions speak louder than words'.

“I have always thought the actions of men the best interpreters of their thoughts.”
― John Locke