Should the €500k plus interest have been confiscated by the State?

[Alfred R Jones]

    I know this is going to get scrubbed pdq (sorry in advance mods) but I couldn't resist ... 

But I would rather be a Troll then support the dishonest story played out by Madeleine’s parents. I will also pledge 10p per mile for Kate’s bike ride. I could be petty and hope Kate gets enormous blisters on her arse during her ride, but then some individual would have to lance them and I would not wish that on anyone. Justice for Goncalo, Madeleine and Brenda and well done Leanne. Jo Petteford  £20

All preceded with the usual judgemental hogwash ... but I would have thought she would have welcomed the opportunity to personally stick a knife into Kate's bum particularly as she is so adept at sticking one into her back.

A perfect example of a "sceptic" "only asking questions" I guess!!

[stephen25000]

A perfect example of a "sceptic" "only asking questions" I guess!!

Tell me alfred, why should people believe the accounts of events of the mccanns and associates, when they are not consistent ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Tell me alfred, why should people believe the accounts of events of the mccanns and associates, when they are not consistent ?

Because I say so. 

[Brietta]

I'm not sure that that was ever more than a factoid. Brendan de Beer does attempt to check facts, but even he has prefaced the claim with "apparent".

Even if there had been an attempt at negotiations, it's unclear who would be responsible for announcing this to the judge. I would have thought it would have to be the claimants (whoever actually initiated it), but perhaps Jean-Pierre would have more information on that.

If ever the McCanns did attempt a negotiation, it may simply have been to put an end to the never-ending circus, particularly as the investigation had finally been reopened.

I think the case may have been interrupted to allow for discussion between the parties, Carana.

Googling ~amaral v mccann discussion of out of court settlement ~ brings up a few references particularly in the mccannfiles (which I can't be bothered ploughing through).
There is also a video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cewVx7cydak  which I have not yet watched saying the same ... the spin seems to have been that the McCanns knew they would be defeated in Court and were thus anxious to settle ... and I think Mr Amaral and his friends really believed that.

It would have been so easy for him to settle in 2013 and keep that particular fiction going ... bet he regretted it when the Court actually did make the decision.

Therefore the amount awarded is no-one's fault but his own and deserves no criticism.

[Carana]

It was reported long ago that the McCanns lodged a formal complaint with the PJ that Amaral breached the judicial secrecy laws. If they did, then no action seems to have been taken. That suggests that the state authorities had no interest in the matter. This trial is civil, not criminal, so I don't see how the State is involved at all. Surely a criminal trial would be needed? If he should win on appeal then he keeps his money, the McCanns keep their money and they just pay their share of the costs, surely?

One thing we'll probably never know is whether he retired voluntarily or not...

[G-Unit]

One thing we'll probably never know is whether he retired voluntarily or not...

Which is about as relevant as making the same statement about a certain GP.

[Carana]

I think the case may have been interrupted to allow for discussion between the parties, Carana.

Googling ~amaral v mccann discussion of out of court settlement ~ brings up a few references particularly in the mccannfiles (which I can't be bothered ploughing through).
There is also a video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cewVx7cydak  which I have not yet watched saying the same ... the spin seems to have been that the McCanns knew they would be defeated in Court and were thus anxious to settle ... and I think Mr Amaral and his friends really believed that.

It would have been so easy for him to settle in 2013 and keep that particular fiction going ... bet he regretted it when the Court actually did make the decision.

Therefore the amount awarded is no-one's fault but his own and deserves no criticism.

LOL Brietta.

The source would appear to be Hêrnani Carvalho... best known for promoting Dear Jùlia's matinée show in TVMais (the national TV guide). Hmmm.

[Carana]

Which is about as relevant as making the same statement about a certain GP.

Apples and oranges, IMO.

One would have concerned professional faults, the other not.

[Brietta]

LOL Brietta.

The source would appear to be Hêrnani Carvalho... best known for promoting Dear Jùlia's matinée show in TVMais (the national TV guide). Hmmm.

I've just sat through it Carana, which led to one I've been looking for where a discussion took place regarding golf bags or sports bags with Mr Amaral and H Carvalho framing an entirely non-prejudicial photograph of Madeleine's father in the background ~ on a golf course complete with golf bag.

Julia was at pains to accredit the British photographer ... but omitted to say it was also a British golf course ... leaving the audience with a subliminal message.

People were making a very good living from Madeleine if the number of interviews on Portuguese television is anything to go by.
I don't recall any of these earnings being asked about or sequestered by the Court.  Having a pension above the Portuguese average, even allowing for the amount deducted for tax debts, Mr Amaral could be expected to have been making a comfortable living for himself.

The court seems to have considered only what could be proved to have been the proceeds from monies accruing to him from the sales of his book ... therefore if that is the money being used to pay the award to the injured party ... I think it is perfectly justified.

[Alice Purjorick]

     

           The pertinent 'time scale' under discussion is the 2013 attempt to settle the matter out of court.

So the first four years of the life of the writ were like "The Phoney War" ?

[Carana]

I've just sat through it Carana, which led to one I've been looking for where a discussion took place regarding golf bags or sports bags with Mr Amaral and H Carvalho framing an entirely non-prejudicial photograph of Madeleine's father in the background ~ on a golf course complete with golf bag.

Julia was at pains to accredit the British photographer ... but omitted to say it was also a British golf course ... leaving the audience with a subliminal message.

People were making a very good living from Madeleine if the number of interviews on Portuguese television is anything to go by.
I don't recall any of these earnings being asked about or sequestered by the Court.  Having a pension above the Portuguese average, even allowing for the amount deducted for tax debts, Mr Amaral could be expected to have been making a comfortable living for himself.

The court seems to have considered only what could be proved to have been the proceeds from monies accruing to him from the sales of his book ... therefore if that is the money being used to pay the award to the injured party ... I think it is perfectly justified.

And the docu / DVD deal.

His "agent" attempted to charge a media outlet connected to Sky €80k + VAT for an interview, so how many others did he charge for?

[Mr Gray]

Tell me alfred, why should people believe the accounts of events of the mccanns and associates, when they are not consistent ?

because as everybody knows..particularly experienced detectives...recall is not perfect...having said that only a very small group doubt the mccanns so who cares

[Alice Purjorick]

because as everybody knows..particularly experienced detectives...recall is not perfect...having said that only a very small group doubt the mccanns so who cares

The statement is based on what kind of survey by whom?

[misty]

Does anyone have any figures on how much GA earned from sales of The English Gag?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Which is about as relevant as making the same statement about a certain GP.

Did we ever find out the reason for her giving up her job?  apart from that old 'looking for Madeleine chestnut'.
 I believe it is more to do with the 'celebrity' personas they have now.