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Offline Brietta

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #210 on: June 12, 2015, 10:16:28 AM »

Never mind, Brietta.........your wee friend is on the case.

How about targeting a few more people contributing to an appeal fund?

Could be more material for another dossier to get some of them investigated.

Now there`s an exciting prospect for "cult" monitors and commentators.



"Another one giving away taxpayers' money to a bent cop. They'd all better hope that Jobcentres, etc - and especially Ian Duncan Smith - don't see this, or they are liable to find themselves in hot water and their benefits cut."
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£10
Cheryl Moncrieffe
2 hours ago
Thanks to the Daily Star for reminding me that I am a troll! actually I am a disabled parent with a disabled child, here is £10 from out DLA, we cant really afford this but what price do you put on truth and justice, without it we have nothing!


I read that some time ago and thought that was a rather sad post from Cheryl Moncrieffe and I hope she had the sense not to use her real name or Ian Duncan Smith's vigilantes may add another two scalps to their belt ... and don't think for a minute they won't.

Disability Living Allowance is assessed according to need ... and I think it is wrong to use money assessed to suit a disabled child's requirements for anything other than the benefit of that child.
You seem to think as Cheryl does that Mr Amaral's need comes before that of her child ... and that is a worrying mindset.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #211 on: June 12, 2015, 10:19:24 AM »
Rubbish.

That forum has neutral moderators, and any abusive posts are removed.

I see them there Stephen,   there isn't anyone to report them,   as the people who are still posting on Amazon don't seem to find them abusive,  strange that.

stephen25000

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Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #212 on: June 12, 2015, 10:19:44 AM »
I read that some time ago and thought that was a rather sad post from Cheryl Moncrieffe and I hope she had the sense not to use her real name or Ian Duncan Smith's vigilantes may add another two scalps to their belt ... and don't think for a minute they won't.

Disability Living Allowance is assessed according to need ... and I think it is wrong to use money assessed to suit a disabled child's requirements for anything other than the benefit of that child.
You seem to think as Cheryl does that Mr Amaral's need comes before that of her child ... and that is a worrying mindset.

Has she committed an illegal act ?

stephen25000

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Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #213 on: June 12, 2015, 10:23:20 AM »
I see them there Stephen,   there isn't anyone to report them,   as the people who are still posting on Amazon don't seem to find them abusive,  strange that.

You can of course prove they haven't been reported ?

and you haven't observed that not everyone agrees with each other on that forum ?

Offline Carew

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #214 on: June 12, 2015, 10:31:15 AM »
I read that some time ago and thought that was a rather sad post from Cheryl Moncrieffe and I hope she had the sense not to use her real name or Ian Duncan Smith's vigilantes may add another two scalps to their belt ... and don't think for a minute they won't.

Disability Living Allowance is assessed according to need ... and I think it is wrong to use money assessed to suit a disabled child's requirements for anything other than the benefit of that child.
You seem to think as Cheryl does that Mr Amaral's need comes before that of her child ... and that is a worrying mindset.



Not as worrying as yours, frankly.

People who donate know of a "newspaper"`s  comments and interest.............and are therefore already aware of the vindictiveness out there towards them from all those making them a target for supporting an appeal fund.

(Maybe child-care welfare issues prompt many who "question" the McCanns and want to support the appeal........Who are we to decide what others should do ?)





« Last Edit: June 12, 2015, 10:36:27 AM by Carew »

Offline Brietta

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #215 on: June 12, 2015, 10:39:45 AM »
Has she committed an illegal act ?


You are asking the wrong question.  It is remarkable that the thought doesn't pass through your head that there is some skewed thinking going on when a mother confesses to donating money, which she can ill afford, from Disability Living Allowance for a disabled child, to a cause decided by due process in a country not her own.

Herd mentality? ... or cult mentality? ... but I see a failure to consider what might be better expenditure of money assessed for the assistance of bringing up a disabled child.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #216 on: June 12, 2015, 10:43:43 AM »
I wonder if half of these people who donate to the Amaral fund are taken in by the 'help Madeleine' trick that was put out.

They see that and think that with helping Amaral Madeleine will be helped,   they don't know the full story.

Offline Lace

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #217 on: June 12, 2015, 10:45:44 AM »
You can of course prove they haven't been reported ?

and you haven't observed that not everyone agrees with each other on that forum ?

You are all of the same mind set,   the McCann's are guilty,  anyone saying otherwise is ridiculed and abused until they leave.

Offline jassi

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #218 on: June 12, 2015, 10:51:01 AM »
I haven't noticed a mass exodus - who's left ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #219 on: June 12, 2015, 11:05:21 AM »


Not as worrying as yours, frankly.

People who donate know of a "newspaper"`s  comments and interest.............and are therefore already aware of the vindictiveness out there towards them from all those making them a target for supporting an appeal fund.

(Maybe child-care welfare issues prompt many who "question" the McCanns and want to support the appeal........Who are we to decide what others should do ?)


You raised the issue of people on benefits contributing to Mr Amaral's fund ~ I didn't, for the simple reason I have no interest in perpetuating that particular stereotype ~ but Ms Moncrieffe and some others who have donated do not share the the same reticence.

Amazing you mention that the people who have waged an eight year unremitting onslaught on Madeleine McCann's family feel there is vindictiveness directed towards them?? The mind just boggles ... then any excuse must be better than none.

That they chose to involve themselves in the judicial process in a Sovereign country on behalf of a National of that country who has had the attention of the courts and the media for at least five years is extraordinary to say the least ... but when one actually reads the stated motivation behind it all it is even more perplexing.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #220 on: June 12, 2015, 11:12:50 AM »
I wonder if half of these people who donate to the Amaral fund are taken in by the 'help Madeleine' trick that was put out.

They see that and think that with helping Amaral Madeleine will be helped,   they don't know the full story.

They know nothing at all, Lace, and what they think they know comes directly from internet sites promulgating ridiculous views and/or Lizzie Taylor's ubiquitous videos.

If I had a pound for every mention of "blood spatter" ... I could book myself and my extended family a three month very posh holiday in Portugal ... in fact I could probably afford to bring a couple of friends too.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #221 on: June 12, 2015, 11:31:07 AM »

There is a big difference between donating for a fund to help find a missing child and donating to a fund for a man who couldn't wait to write a book about a missing child who he claims is dead.

Do explain.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Carew

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #222 on: June 12, 2015, 11:44:34 AM »

You are asking the wrong question.  It is remarkable that the thought doesn't pass through your head that there is some skewed thinking going on when a mother confesses to donating money, which she can ill afford, from Disability Living Allowance for a disabled child, to a cause decided by due process in a country not her own.

Herd mentality? ... or cult mentality? ... but I see a failure to consider what might be better expenditure of money assessed for the assistance of bringing up a disabled child.


Choice Policing Mentality?

How about adding that one?

(Keep going, Brietta; you seem well on the way to criticising the "choices" of a group of British Medical Professionals for failing to spend some of their Child Benefit Allowance on babysitters. )


Offline Carew

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #223 on: June 12, 2015, 11:47:12 AM »

You raised the issue of people on benefits contributing to Mr Amaral's fund ~ I didn't, for the simple reason I have no interest in perpetuating that particular stereotype ~ but Ms Moncrieffe and some others who have donated do not share the the same reticence.

Amazing you mention that the people who have waged an eight year unremitting onslaught on Madeleine McCann's family feel there is vindictiveness directed towards them?? The mind just boggles ... then any excuse must be better than none.

That they chose to involve themselves in the judicial process in a Sovereign country on behalf of a National of that country who has had the attention of the courts and the media for at least five years is extraordinary to say the least ... but when one actually reads the stated motivation behind it all it is even more perplexing.

Come off it...........You have plenty to say in response.

Offline Lace

Re: Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?
« Reply #224 on: June 12, 2015, 11:51:47 AM »
Do explain.

I can understand people who want to donate to a fund which will help the parents try and find their missing daughter.    I cannot understand people who want to donate to a man who says Madeleine is dead even though there are no facts that point at that being true,   a man who used his position to write a book,   who has been found by a Portuguese court to have been guilty of the fact that he wrote his book whilst a Police Officer in Portugal and who has been ordered by the court to award the McCann's damages.

How can giving money to him be justified?   It was all of his own doing.