Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?

[Alfred R Jones]

How many supporters does he have?
How many display cult like tendencies?
Two numbers will do rather than some long spiel.

1476 and 363. 

[Alice Purjorick]

What is this question of yours that you feel I have not fully answered?  Please feel free to ask it again and I will endeavour to answer it with the due gravitas you clearly feel it deserves.

Don't bother ; you have answered it indirectly 

[Brietta]

Well Gonc certainly has a lot of supporters. Only a small minority act in a cult like way - much the same as a hardcore base of McCann supporters. I for one am glad is he is getting some cash to help mount an appeal. This whole case from a wider perspective is far from over and regardless of what anyone says is still wide open by all accounts. Unless anyone has any insider knowledge that is - please share! Then again I keep hearing whisperings that something might be about to happen - let's see, but my guess is you will all still be hear thrashing this out for the next 6 months at least. Maybe Gonc did it?

If the appeal (mention of which seems to have mysteriously disappeared) is allowed to proceed, I think six months may be a conservative estimate.

Please do not be fooled that Mr Amaral has a host of followers only a few of whom are vociferous in their support; the number contributing to his 'cause' is not remarkable particularly when one considers the repeat donations ... and bears no comparison the campaign raising funds to take legal action against Alistair Carmichael.
Now anyone wishing to see a level legal playing field ... may wish to start up an appeal to do so.


The former Secretary of State for Scotland submitted his defence as campaigners taking him to court reached their fundraising target of £60,000.

Nearly 3,900 people have contributed to the court fund since the effort was set up just over a fortnight ago.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/bid-to-unseat-memo-gate-mp-alistair-carmichael-tops-60000.1433863807

The cult status achieved by a cop with a criminal conviction associated with a pretty heinous crime as the harbinger of Justice and Truth ... is quite an achievement.
So until one can understand how that situation came about ... the rest of it will remain a mystery.  Then 'mystery' is the sum and substance of it all anyway.


B Harrison   
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake for theirs is the kingdom of heaven (Matt 5:10) God bless Amaral
£12

[Alice Purjorick]

1476 and 363.

So by your numbers a shade under 25% of a mere bagatelle of supporters display cult like tendencies.
That is hardly worth starting a thread over on such a lovely sunny day; unless one is totally obsessed of course.

[Carew]

It is a small cult, but a fascinating one nonetheless.  I am interested in cults and cultish behaviour.  I am also interested in conspiracy theorists.  I don't feel threatened by cultists or conspiracy theorists though I do believe that certain people involved in this case would have good reason to be concerned about them.

Do you accept though, that had his fund received no support at all and therefore no  such "cult" allegations , you and others would have been lining up to ...........err... "comment"....... on that situation with exactly the same enthusiasm ?

[Alfred R Jones]

Do you accept though, that had his fund received no support at all and therefore no  such "cult" allegations , you and others would have been lining up to ...........err... "comment"....... on that situation with exactly the same enthusiasm ?

Yes, so?  What's that got to do with the Cult Of Amaral?

[lordpookles]

If the appeal (mention of which seems to have mysteriously disappeared) is allowed to proceed, I think six months may be a conservative estimate.

Please do not be fooled that Mr Amaral has a host of followers only a few of whom are vociferous in their support; the number contributing to his 'cause' is not remarkable particularly when one considers the repeat donations ... and bears no comparison the campaign raising funds to take legal action against Alistair Carmichael.
Now anyone wishing to see a level legal playing field ... may wish to start up an appeal to do so.


The former Secretary of State for Scotland submitted his defence as campaigners taking him to court reached their fundraising target of £60,000.

Nearly 3,900 people have contributed to the court fund since the effort was set up just over a fortnight ago.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/bid-to-unseat-memo-gate-mp-alistair-carmichael-tops-60000.1433863807

The cult status achieved by a cop with a criminal conviction associated with a pretty heinous crime as the harbinger of Justice and Truth ... is quite an achievement.
So until one can understand how that situation came about ... the rest of it will remain a mystery.  Then 'mystery' is the sum and substance of it all anyway.


B Harrison   
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake for theirs is the kingdom of heaven (Matt 5:10) God bless Amaral
£12

Haha that last quote is pretty funny 

I support Amaral in this case as both he and the McCanns have had the advantage of legal funding. It's good that some kind of balance is being struck. Yeah no doubt some will repeat donate many times to feed their obsession, but it is unsurprising to me that he has a number of followers, sympathisers etc - guy had a bestseller in Portugal. To add, yeah sure, his history is a red flag.

[stephen25000]

Yes, so?  What's that got to do with the Cult Of Amaral?

What cult ?

[ferryman]

Haha that last quote is pretty funny 

I support Amaral in this case as both he and the McCanns have had the advantage of legal funding. It's good that some kind of balance is being struck. Yeah no doubt some will repeat donate many times to feed their obsession, but it is unsurprising to me that he has a number of followers, sympathisers etc - guy had a bestseller in Portugal. To add, yeah sure, his history is a red flag.

I've no objection to Amaral's funding -- for precisely the reason that it does ensure equality of arms.

But if Amaral gets flattened, I'll be delighted -- all the more so because he will have no ground to grumble about inequality of arms ...

[Carew]

Yes, so?  What's that got to do with the Cult Of Amaral?

..............because  it is "Amaral" himself, rather than "The Cult Of" which interests people, perhaps?

[Brietta]

Do you accept though, that had his fund received no support at all and therefore no  such "cult" allegations , you and others would have been lining up to ...........err... "comment"....... on that situation with exactly the same enthusiasm ?

Not really ... because there would have been nothing to comment about.  On the other hand the comments on the on-going fund donations show facets of character the majority don't even know exists.
There is a repetitiveness about it which I find illuminating ... it seems to be a herd thing ... with each member of the herd asserting they reached that particular conclusion entirely on their own.  But it only takes one to come up with a bumper wheeze ... immediately adopted by very malleable people and so it goes on.
Perfect cult material.

Just my opinion, of course.

[Carew]

Not really ... because there would have been nothing to comment about.  On the other hand the comments on the on-going fund donations show facets of character the majority don't even know exists.
There is a repetitiveness about it which I find illuminating ... it seems to be a herd thing ... with each member of the herd asserting they reached that particular conclusion entirely on their own.  But it only takes one to come up with a bumper wheeze ... immediately adopted by very malleable people and so it goes on.
Perfect cult material.

Just my opinion, of course.

Of course there would ....... if only to gloat about his lack of support.

[Lyall]

Not really ... because there would have been nothing to comment about.  On the other hand the comments on the on-going fund donations show facets of character the majority don't even know exists.
There is a repetitiveness about it which I find illuminating ... it seems to be a herd thing ... with each member of the herd asserting they reached that particular conclusion entirely on their own.  But it only takes one to come up with a bumper wheeze ... immediately adopted by very malleable people and so it goes on.
Perfect cult material.

Just my opinion, of course.

If it is a herd thing in a great many cases it's got nothing to do with Amaral. People had formed their opinion long before they'd even heard of him.

That is part of the reason why people will be supporting him - they know his book didn't have the impact the writ claimed it did.

[Brietta]

If it is a herd thing in a great many cases it's got nothing to do with Amaral. People had formed their opinion long before they'd even heard of him.

That is part of the reason why people will be supporting him - they know his book didn't have the impact the writ claimed it did.

How did they form an opinion?  Extra Sensory Perception? 

Or did they read ... and believe ... the press?  Explicable that they should be taken in at the time. 

Inexplicable though that they continued 'believing' when the rest of the world read the retractions and apologies and understood that the DNA results were not what they had been told.

[Alice Purjorick]

What cult ?

Alf's just invented one. According to him it has 300 odd members.