Does Goncalo Amaral have a cult following?

[jassi]

I can understand people who want to donate to a fund which will help the parents try and find their missing daughter.    I cannot understand people who want to donate to a man who says Madeleine is dead even though there are no facts that point at that being true,   a man who used his position to write a book,   who has been found by a Portuguese court to have been guilty of the fact that he wrote his book whilst a Police Officer in Portugal and who has been ordered by the court to award the McCann's damages.

How can giving money to him be justified?   It was all of his own doing.

Why should anyone have to justify themselves?

[Brietta]

Choice Policing Mentality?

How about adding that one?

(Keep going, Brietta; you seem well on the way to criticising the "choices" of a group of British Medical Professionals for failing to spend some of their Child Benefit Allowance on babysitters. )

I don't criticise people for ill informed stupidity ... particularly those who are suffering as a direct result.  I reserve criticism for those who have developed ill informed stupidity into what is almost an art form.

"The Truth is Out There" ... or at least some of it is in the form of Forensic Reports ~ Mark Harrison's Report ~ Martin Grime's Report ... ... and the activities of the PJ and SY in Madeleine McCann's reopened investigation.

Yet all some can see is 'the truth' as portrayed by Mr Amaral in his inaccurate and outdated book.  Awesome!!

[Lace]

They know nothing at all, Lace, and what they think they know comes directly from internet sites promulgating ridiculous views and/or Lizzie Taylor's ubiquitous videos.

If I had a pound for every mention of "blood spatter" ... I could book myself and my extended family a three month very posh holiday in Portugal ... in fact I could probably afford to bring a couple of friends too.

This is the whole problem,  twitter has been giving out the wrong messages for years.   Blood spatter,  Gerry dumped a freezer,   Smith man is Gerry etc. etc.   Unfortunately people believe it all without doing any research themselves,   to them all the twitter messages are true and they look on Amaral as the person to bring the McCann's to justice even though two police forces have said they are not suspects or even persons of interest.  It really is unbelievable.

[Lace]

Why should anyone have to justify themselves?

Why not?   Come on why give him money   the court has ruled he used his position as a Police Officer to write his book,  true or false?

[slartibartfast]

I can understand people who want to donate to a fund which will help the parents try and find their missing daughter.    I cannot understand people who want to donate to a man who says Madeleine is dead even though there are no facts that point at that being true,   a man who used his position to write a book,   who has been found by a Portuguese court to have been guilty of the fact that he wrote his book whilst a Police Officer in Portugal and who has been ordered by the court to award the McCann's damages.

How can giving money to him be justified?   It was all of his own doing.

They are both cases of people giving money to people they sympathise with.

[Brietta]

Come off it...........You have plenty to say in response.

 "in response" ... and not my choice of subject matter ... all yours.
In future think about what might be in Pandora's box before you open it.

People who are admitting they cannot afford to donate money to a cause are depriving themselves to do so ... you posted that as if it was the right thing to do ... I can only equate both behaviours with the subject of the thread.

[Eleanor]

Why not?   Come on why give him money   the court has ruled he used his position as a Police Officer to write his book,  true or false?

He will have to attempt to justify himself to The Appeal Court.  But that Court won't be interested in how he raised the money, or by what means, Cult or otherwise.
But do his Supporters think that their admiration will affect the outcome?

[sadie]

Choice Policing Mentality?

How about adding that one?

(Keep going, Brietta; you seem well on the way to criticising the "choices" of a group of British Medical Professionals for failing to spend some of their Child Benefit Allowance on babysitters. )

I am sure a lot of people on here are with me on this.

I would NEVER leave my child with a babysitter that I did not know.  And know for a very long time.




Maybe you would Carew ?

[jassi]

Why not?   Come on why give him money   the court has ruled he used his position as a Police Officer to write his book,  true or false?

So?  If people wish to donate to him, that is their business, no one else's.

[Carew]

I am sure a lot of people on here are with me on this.

I would NEVER leave my child with a babysitter that I did not know.  And know for a very long time.




Maybe you would Carew ?

Your choice, Sadie.............Others have theirs.
That`s the point .

[Lace]

They are both cases of people giving money to people they sympathise with.

I just don't understand why they sympathise with Amaral.

He decided the McCann's were guilty,    he couldn't wait to write his book as to him he was right and no one was going to tell him otherwise.    He wrote his book whilst still a Police Officer abusing his position.    His book was full of innuendoes accusing the McCann's from everything from being swingers to drugging their children.

Of course the McCann's were going to try and stop the sale of his book,  wouldn't you?

Then when at the end the judge finds that he is indeed guilty and awards the McCann's,  people take pity on him.

I bet if you asked random people who have donated to his fund why they donated the answer would be 'for justice for Madeleine,   we know the McCann's are guilty,   the dogs,  the freezer,  the blood spatter,   the whooshing curtains,  the door,   the Gaspar statements'   etc. etc.  ALL of which SY have read and investigated ALL of which the SY have dismissed as they say the McCann's are NOT suspects or persons of interest.  ALL of which are still being tweeted on twitter and people are believing it.

[Carew]

"in response" ... and not my choice of subject matter ... all yours.
In future think about what might be in Pandora's box before you open it.

People who are admitting they cannot afford to donate money to a cause are depriving themselves to do so ... you posted that as if it was the right thing to do ... I can only equate both behaviours with the subject of the thread.

Not really..........It was BB1`s comments which prompted my response to your practise of  targeting donors to the appeal fund by copying their posts on here........As below.

(Maybe that tendency could be viewed as opening Pandora`s Box.)



"Never mind, Brietta.........your wee friend is on the case.

How about targeting a few more people contributing to an appeal fund?

Could be more material for another dossier to get some of them investigated.

Now there`s an exciting prospect for "cult" monitors and commentators.


BB1
"Another one giving away taxpayers' money to a bent cop. They'd all better hope that Jobcentres, etc - and especially Ian Duncan Smith - don't see this, or they are liable to find themselves in hot water and their benefits cut."
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£10
Cheryl Moncrieffe
2 hours ago
Thanks to the Daily Star for reminding me that I am a troll! actually I am a disabled parent with a disabled child, here is £10 from out DLA, we cant really afford this but what price do you put on truth and justice, without it we have nothing! "

[Carew]

...........and before you say it, I know you didn`t copy that particular donation post here, Brietta.........but my goodness you`ve had plenty to say about the "choice" made by the donor, given the prompt!

[stephen25000]

You are asking the wrong question.  It is remarkable that the thought doesn't pass through your head that there is some skewed thinking going on when a mother confesses to donating money, which she can ill afford, from Disability Living Allowance for a disabled child, to a cause decided by due process in a country not her own.

Herd mentality? ... or cult mentality? ... but I see a failure to consider what might be better expenditure of money assessed for the assistance of bringing up a disabled child.

The cult mentality lies with people who obsessive support of the mccanns has become more than a cult, and extremely disturbing.

IMO of course.

[Brietta]

Not really..........It was BB1`s comments which prompted my response to your practise of  targeting donors to the appeal fund by copying their posts on here........As below.

(Maybe that tendency could be viewed as opening Pandora`s Box.)



"Never mind, Brietta.........your wee friend is on the case.

How about targeting a few more people contributing to an appeal fund?

Could be more material for another dossier to get some of them investigated.

Now there`s an exciting prospect for "cult" monitors and commentators.


BB1
"Another one giving away taxpayers' money to a bent cop. They'd all better hope that Jobcentres, etc - and especially Ian Duncan Smith - don't see this, or they are liable to find themselves in hot water and their benefits cut."
.


£10
Cheryl Moncrieffe
2 hours ago
Thanks to the Daily Star for reminding me that I am a troll! actually I am a disabled parent with a disabled child, here is £10 from out DLA, we cant really afford this but what price do you put on truth and justice, without it we have nothing! "

You brought the subject of Disability Living Allowance being used to contribute to Mr Amaral's appeal to this thread ... not BBI ~ who I don't recognise as a member here anyway ... and if that is the best you can do to argue that Mr Amaral does not have a cult following ... ouch!