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Offline mercury

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2015, 12:52:10 AM »
Yes Brietta I agreee, it was a mistake to give the parents preferential treatment, British police have said as much, the fact that they DID despite normal police suspicions pays testament to....answers on a postcard

Offline mercury

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2015, 12:55:58 AM »
So Amaral was lying when he wrote in his book that he already began to suspect the parents of something on the morning of the 4th May was he?

No,he wasn't, OBVIOUSLY, but that bears no relation to much, the place and investigation was cockroach crawling early on with myriads of British "involvement"

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2015, 01:29:43 AM »
So Amaral was lying when he wrote in his book that he already began to suspect the parents of something on the morning of the 4th May was he?
I am not going to read the entire book again to see if I can prove or disprove this.  Life is short.

Gerry McCann's interview started at 11:15 AM on 4 May.  Kate's started at 14:20.

How did Amaral get a head start?
What's up, old man?

Offline Carana

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2015, 09:42:38 AM »
Yes Brietta I agreee, it was a mistake to give the parents preferential treatment, British police have said as much, the fact that they DID despite normal police suspicions pays testament to....answers on a postcard

Preferntial treatment compared to whom?

Offline Carana

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2015, 10:09:50 AM »
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and any major investigation in any country will miss things, go off on the wrong track, lack resources when most needed... but a quick shortlist in no particular order:

- Crawl spaces
- A more thorough analysis of hone records
- Mrs Fenn (a more thorough and earlier interview and cross-checked with her friend; with a sound reconstruction)
- The alibis of known / suspected sex offenders
- Sexual assaults
- A more thorough forensic sweep of 5A
- A forensic examination of rubbish containers (a brief search of some and of the local dump was done but quite some time later)
- The 5J mystery
- Evening crèche records
- Existing CCTV in PdL (the Paraiso one was checked).
- An early appeal to any male carrying a child that evening in the area / anyone who had seen one

Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2015, 11:27:57 AM »
Preferntial treatment compared to whom?

Robert Murat? How much assistance did he get?
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Offline misty

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2015, 12:34:12 PM »
Robert Murat? How much assistance did he get?

He wasn't the victim of a crime, only a suspect.
BTW - who funded his libel case against the UK newspapers? Max Clifford gave him a lot of help for free after RM pleaded poverty - and then RM employed a top UK solicitor in Louis Charalambous.

Offline Carana

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2015, 01:00:18 PM »
Robert Murat? How much assistance did he get?

What type of assistance and from whom?

Offline jassi

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2015, 01:08:37 PM »
Consular, perhaps. He is a UK citizen.  Maybe he didn't ask for any, of course.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2015, 01:30:01 PM »
Consular, perhaps. He is a UK citizen.  Maybe he didn't ask for any, of course.

            I believe Robert Murat holds dual nationality and was domicile in Portugal.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2015, 05:11:03 PM »
I only have the Daily Mail quoting El Mundo, December 2007;

El Mundo claims a Foreign Office document, dated May 17, justified the order because of "the specific nature of the case" and because British diplomats "were already helping Madeleine McCann's parents."
The paper reported: "An internal document, sent by the Foreign Office of the United Kingdom, orders British diplomats 'to avoid offering support' to Robert Murat, one of the suspects in the Maddie case, unless charges are presented against him."


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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2015, 05:33:11 PM »
I only have the Daily Mail quoting El Mundo, December 2007;

El Mundo claims a Foreign Office document, dated May 17, justified the order because of "the specific nature of the case" and because British diplomats "were already helping Madeleine McCann's parents."
The paper reported: "An internal document, sent by the Foreign Office of the United Kingdom, orders British diplomats 'to avoid offering support' to Robert Murat, one of the suspects in the Maddie case, unless charges are presented against him."


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As I understand if he holds dual nationality he would not be entitled to any consular assistance

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Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2015, 05:42:59 PM »
I am not going to read the entire book again to see if I can prove or disprove this.  Life is short.

Gerry McCann's interview started at 11:15 AM on 4 May.  Kate's started at 14:20.

How did Amaral get a head start?
You tell me. He writes in his book that he was already suspicious on the morning of the 4th - either he is lying or he was relying on gut-feel and what he'd been told by other police officers.

Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2015, 05:59:01 PM »
As I understand if he holds dual nationality he would not be entitled to any consular assistance

It's not hard to find out;

In this function appeared a British citizen, Robert J.Q.E. Murat (duly identified in the files from previous work), official resident of Casa Liliana, Rua Ramalhete, Praia da Luz, Lagos.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2015, 06:08:41 PM »
It's not hard to find out;

In this function appeared a British citizen, Robert J.Q.E. Murat (duly identified in the files from previous work), official resident of Casa Liliana, Rua Ramalhete, Praia da Luz, Lagos.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm

According to newspaper Correio da Manhã, he arrived in Portugal two weeks ago and began surveying the home of Robert Murat, who holds dual British and Portuguese citizenship and lives