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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2015, 06:14:29 PM »
It is not unusual for those with dual nationality to hold only one current passport. With a business in Portugal it may have been beneficial to hold dual citizenship

Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2015, 06:21:53 PM »
According to newspaper Correio da Manhã, he arrived in Portugal two weeks ago and began surveying the home of Robert Murat, who holds dual British and Portuguese citizenship and lives

He was born in the UK but his father was Portuguese, so he could have taken Portuguese nationality I suppose.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2015, 06:40:01 PM »
He was born in the UK but his father was Portuguese, so he could have taken Portuguese nationality I suppose.

There are many internet references to his dual nationality ... however just because it is on the internet doesn't make it so.
He would certainly be entitled to dual nationality and I think it is highly probable ... but no idea if he does hold it ... the references might not refer to his legal situation but to the fact he was half Portuguese  and half Brit??
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2015, 10:11:10 PM »
Is Murat still a suspect for some?

I guess any patsy would do, but the McCann team have failed every single time trying

Offline misty

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2015, 10:50:36 PM »
Is Murat still a suspect for some?

I guess any patsy would do, but the McCann team have failed every single time trying

SY found it necessary to question him again. Amaral seemed to believe RM was an arguido again. But the Nicola Wall of Silence is holding firm, so it's anybody's guess.

Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2015, 08:20:28 AM »
There are many internet references to his dual nationality ... however just because it is on the internet doesn't make it so.
He would certainly be entitled to dual nationality and I think it is highly probable ... but no idea if he does hold it ... the references might not refer to his legal situation but to the fact he was half Portuguese  and half Brit??

Yes, the PJ Files say he's British and elsewhere he's 'dual nationality' or 'ex-Pat'. I once had a German neighbour married to a UK soldier. She wasn't planning to register her son as a German/UK citizen because they had conscription in Germany, so I guess parents might think of things like that when they have children. Sometimes there are disadvantages to be considered.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2015, 09:50:43 AM »
Yes, the PJ Files say he's British and elsewhere he's 'dual nationality' or 'ex-Pat'. I once had a German neighbour married to a UK soldier. She wasn't planning to register her son as a German/UK citizen because they had conscription in Germany, so I guess parents might think of things like that when they have children. Sometimes there are disadvantages to be considered.

I think he would be proud of both nationalities ... but if it was something his parents neglected to formalise when he was an infant ... he might not have bothered to get round to it as an adult.

During a strike at the passport office some years ago, some people were able to apply for an Irish passport if a grandparent was Irish. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html


                 Do you remember why we're having this conversation?  Just realised it may be OT.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2015, 10:56:47 AM »
I think he would be proud of both nationalities ... but if it was something his parents neglected to formalise when he was an infant ... he might not have bothered to get round to it as an adult.

During a strike at the passport office some years ago, some people were able to apply for an Irish passport if a grandparent was Irish. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html


                 Do you remember why we're having this conversation?  Just realised it may be OT.

Because he didn't get much consular support lol.

Back on topic, I wonder why John Geraghty was never interviewed? Did the PJ ever identify him as the guy who returned the hire car? Why did he get involved?
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Offline Carana

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2015, 11:04:02 AM »
I only have the Daily Mail quoting El Mundo, December 2007;

El Mundo claims a Foreign Office document, dated May 17, justified the order because of "the specific nature of the case" and because British diplomats "were already helping Madeleine McCann's parents."
The paper reported: "An internal document, sent by the Foreign Office of the United Kingdom, orders British diplomats 'to avoid offering support' to Robert Murat, one of the suspects in the Maddie case, unless charges are presented against him."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501440/Madeleine-British-diplomats-told-avoid-offering-support-Murat.html#ixzz3dtzmmaYN
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Who wrote the original El Mundo article?

Offline jassi

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2015, 11:12:04 AM »
Because he didn't get much consular support lol.

Back on topic, I wonder why John Geraghty was never interviewed? Did the PJ ever identify him as the guy who returned the hire car? Why did he get involved?

He probably knew someone who knew someone who knew a member of the group or the family.  There seems to be a lot of that in this case.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2015, 11:42:58 AM »
He probably knew someone who knew someone who knew a member of the group or the family.  There seems to be a lot of that in this case.

He has been described as 'shy'. He never spoke to the newspapers, never gave an interview to the police, nothing. Strange for someone who became involved because that suggests someone who 'puts themselves out there'. Perhaps he met them at the church on 6th May and asked them if they would like to have access to the church 'out of hours' as it were. We don't know, all we know he arranged for them to get the keys and stayed in touch, storing the car for it to be re-inspected. Was it ever examined by the McCanns people? We don't know that either. I have wondered if it was his villa where they had the 'birthday BBQ'.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2015, 02:31:56 PM »
He has been described as 'shy'. He never spoke to the newspapers, never gave an interview to the police, nothing. Strange for someone who became involved because that suggests someone who 'puts themselves out there'. Perhaps he met them at the church on 6th May and asked them if they would like to have access to the church 'out of hours' as it were. We don't know, all we know he arranged for them to get the keys and stayed in touch, storing the car for it to be re-inspected. Was it ever examined by the McCanns people? We don't know that either. I have wondered if it was his villa where they had the 'birthday BBQ'.

He is probably Gerry's golf buddy. He's a wealthy man so did he own an apartment in PDL e.g. St James Apartments?

http://www.boavistagolf.com/media/pdfs/boavista-10th-anniversary-2002-2012.pdf



5. With regard to the possible sighting of arguido Gerry McCann next to a pink coloured block of apartments at a site opposite the Luz cemetery, we can inform you that this an establishment called 'St James Portuguesa Lda', lots 1 and 2 being situated in the positions mentioned, from the outside the spaces corresponding to Lot 1 can be seen of a total of apartment designated as follows: 101-104, 111-114, 121-124, 105-109, 115-119, 125-129.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DCCB_LETTER.htm

Amaral was removed before investigating that lead.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline pegasus

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2015, 02:50:16 PM »
The DCCB report arrives, Amaral is ejected, just coincidental timing?
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Offline Brietta

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2015, 04:39:07 PM »
The DCCB report arrives, Amaral is ejected, just coincidental timing?

As far as I can glean from that ... a cleaner had been arranged for the villa the McCann family were staying in ... and the gardener planted flowers in the garden.

Exactly what is it I'm missing?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anna

Re: What/where should have been investigated,but was not?
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2015, 05:31:53 PM »
He has been described as 'shy'. He never spoke to the newspapers, never gave an interview to the police, nothing. Strange for someone who became involved because that suggests someone who 'puts themselves out there'. Perhaps he met them at the church on 6th May and asked them if they would like to have access to the church 'out of hours' as it were. We don't know, all we know he arranged for them to get the keys and stayed in touch, storing the car for it to be re-inspected. Was it ever examined by the McCanns people? We don't know that either. I have wondered if it was his villa where they had the 'birthday BBQ'.

I read somewhere that it was.....might be in one of these somewhere

John Geraghty interview

JG Profile
http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2009/06/11/profile-john-geraghty/

Is this the email to prince charles, that enraged GA?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-484797/Sacked-maid-kidnapped-Madeleine-bosses.html
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