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Offline G-Unit

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2015, 08:35:24 PM »
I see thirty sightings mentioned in your cite not the one hundred and thirty five mentioned in your post.

It also seems steps were taken to investigate more than one ... which possibly hit the headlines with the release of the attendant CCTV images a picture being worth a thousand words.

However it seems that the lack of experience of the officers involved in the initial search for Madeleine caused some conjecture ...


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“We are extremely grateful to the Belgian authorities for pursuing all these potential leads.

This number of sightings does seem particularly high. But if any one is genuine it is vital the information is checked out.

“Private investigators working for Kate and Gerry McCann in Belgium will be liaising with the Belgian authorities as an absolute priority to see if any of these new sightings are the key to finding Madeleine.”


Most of the Portuguese police officers who looked for Madeleine after her disappearance had no proper training in missing people searches, case files revealed yesterday.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/56450/30-new-sightings-of-Madeleine-in-Belgium-in-a-week

I do wish people would check things before making lofty pronouncements;

The new clues bring the number of “Madeleine sightings” in Belgium to 135 since she went missing in May last year.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/56450/30-new-sightings-of-Madeleine-in-Belgium-in-a-week
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Offline Brietta

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2015, 09:05:47 PM »
I do wish people would check things before making lofty pronouncements;

The new clues bring the number of “Madeleine sightings” in Belgium to 135 since she went missing in May last year.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/56450/30-new-sightings-of-Madeleine-in-Belgium-in-a-week

I did miss that however I did not miss that contrary to your post ... the reported sightings were investigated and not just the one you happened to mention.

I also did not miss that it was the McCann detectives who were tasked with following these leads.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2015, 09:13:42 PM »
I did miss that however I did not miss that contrary to your post ... the reported sightings were investigated and not just the one you happened to mention.

I also did not miss that it was the McCann detectives who were tasked with following these leads.

I thought it was the Belgian police who investigated them? No doubt the PI's jumped on the bandwagon too.
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Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2015, 09:20:17 PM »
It's interesting to read through the lists of sightings in the files. USA, Canada, South america, Eastern Europe, Western Europe. North Africa. UK (all areas including the Isle of Man and Jersey), Australia, Malta. There were hundreds of them, and those are only the ones given credence. Many happened at the same time hundreds of miles apart. Others were obviously from the deranged or from psychics etc.
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Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2015, 09:21:49 PM »
Sorry, I wasn't aware that as well as SY keeping you up to speed on developments ... so were the McCann detectives.

Did they find Madeleine ? 8)-)))

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Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2015, 09:25:24 PM »
It's interesting to read through the lists of sightings in the files. USA, Canada, South america, Eastern Europe, Western Europe. North Africa. UK (all areas including the Isle of Man and Jersey), Australia, Malta. There were hundreds of them, and those are only the ones given credence. Many happened at the same time hundreds of miles apart. Others were obviously from the deranged or from psychics etc.

I wonder if Derek Acorah has  really changed his original view ?

At least he might have got  one thing right.


Offline Brietta

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2015, 10:47:43 PM »
I thought it was the Belgian police who investigated them? No doubt the PI's jumped on the bandwagon too.

I think you will find that the private investigators were doing what the police could or would not do (as Paiva's 'not relevant to the inquiry' revealed in 2010).

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2015, 10:54:32 PM »
It's interesting to read through the lists of sightings in the files. USA, Canada, South america, Eastern Europe, Western Europe. North Africa. UK (all areas including the Isle of Man and Jersey), Australia, Malta. There were hundreds of them, and those are only the ones given credence. Many happened at the same time hundreds of miles apart. Others were obviously from the deranged or from psychics etc.

 ... and the obviously deranged and psychic sightings could and probably were put on the back burner till more credible ones were checked out.

Is it your contention that following Mr Amaral's opinion that Madeleine McCann is dead ... any sighting of a child resembling her to the extent it might be her ... should be ignored?

Why else the derision from you and like minded people on reported sightings?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline sadie

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2015, 12:48:29 AM »
... and the obviously deranged and psychic sightings could and probably were put on the back burner till more credible ones were checked out.

Is it your contention that following Mr Amaral's opinion that Madeleine McCann is dead ... any sighting of a child resembling her to the extent it might be her ... should be ignored?

Why else the derision from you and like minded people on reported sightings?
What really interested me was the way that nothing was made of the sightings in the Porto area.  A string of them were aparantly totally ignored with at least one ridiculed.


Strange things happened about the main Porto sighting the morning after Madeleine disappeared ...  with the Portimao PJ overriding the Processos about the sighting written up there.

The Portimao PJ changed the info on Processos 809 written by the Officers on the spot in Porto and made a real mess of the changes.  Portimoa PJ [Amarals bunch] even got the railway station where the sighting was mixed up with another railway station about 5 miles away. 

In all I believe that they made 5 mistakes over the original and almost certainly gave out false info. 


How did that happen?   And why was nothing made of the string of sightings?



Offline G-Unit

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2015, 06:27:53 AM »
I think you will find that the private investigators were doing what the police could or would not do (as Paiva's 'not relevant to the inquiry' revealed in 2010).

Why send private investigators to Belgium when the Belgian police investigated all the sightings there? Are the Belgian police incompetent too?
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Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2015, 06:31:42 AM »
... and the obviously deranged and psychic sightings could and probably were put on the back burner till more credible ones were checked out.

Is it your contention that following Mr Amaral's opinion that Madeleine McCann is dead ... any sighting of a child resembling her to the extent it might be her ... should be ignored?

Why else the derision from you and like minded people on reported sightings?

Derision? I have not derided sightings.
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Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2015, 07:03:33 AM »
The amount of publicity about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann led to thousands of sightings being reported from all over the world. The Portuguese police force worked hard to check out the sightings that seemed credible. At the same time Leicestershire police were also dealing with a lot of the sightings reported to them, communicating with local forces all over the UK and beyond..

Instead of realising what a huge task they faced, some people prefer to take one or two sightings which the media chose to publicise and point to them to show, once again, how 'incompetent' the Portuguese police were. May I suggest that they use the link below to see how many sightings there were and what was done about them?

This is true record of what was done;

 file of sightings (Apenso 5: 14 volumes, 2,550 pages)
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAGE_ORDER.htm

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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2015, 07:19:07 AM »
The amount of publicity about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann led to thousands of sightings being reported from all over the world. The Portuguese police force worked hard to check out the sightings that seemed credible. At the same time Leicestershire police were also dealing with a lot of the sightings reported to them, communicating with local forces all over the UK and beyond..

Instead of realising what a huge task they faced, some people prefer to take one or two sightings which the media chose to publicise and point to them to show, once again, how 'incompetent' the Portuguese police were. May I suggest that they use the link below to see how many sightings there were and what was done about them?

This is true record of what was done;

 file of sightings (Apenso 5: 14 volumes, 2,550 pages)
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAGE_ORDER.htm

there is enough evidence to show the Portuguese police were totally incompetent. The sheets from maddie's bed were not thoroughly examined for dna and instead of being kept as evidence they were sent to the laundry...unbelievable....

stephen25000

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Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #73 on: July 17, 2015, 07:39:37 AM »
there is enough evidence to show the Portuguese police were totally incompetent. The sheets from maddie's bed were not thoroughly examined for dna and instead of being kept as evidence they were sent to the laundry...unbelievable....

Your bias against the PJ is very obvious.

Why don't you criticize the mccanns for their failures.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Groundhog Day? What if anything can we agree about?
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2015, 07:48:15 AM »
Your bias against the PJ is very obvious.

Why don't you criticize the mccanns for their failures.

a typical personal attack on me an and abject failure to address the post