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Offline mercury

Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« on: August 07, 2015, 09:31:34 PM »
I thought it might be a good idea to list the various sightings and perhaps discuss the viability or not of some of them, as some seem to be being promoted in discussions when they have actually been ruled out by police, whilst others remain "possibles"

2011 Sighting in India - Negative (Parents' confirmation)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019698/Madeleine-McCann-Hopes-dashed-sighting-India.html

2007 - 4 May - Repsol Service Gas Station Albufeira - Negative (Child on CCTV had very long hair)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

2012 - Queenstown New Zealand - Negative (DNA test)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277943/Madeleine-McCann-DNA-tests-prove-New-Zealand-girl-NOT-missing-Maddie.html

On second thoughts, Perhaps we should concentrate only on  sightings that could have been Madeleine and the reasons why (should save alot of bandwidth)

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« Last Edit: August 28, 2015, 03:11:36 AM by John »

Offline Brietta

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2015, 12:42:58 AM »
I thought it might be a good idea to list the various sightings and perhaps discuss the viability or not of some of them, as some seem to be being promoted in discussions when they have actually been ruled out by police, whilst others remain "possibles"

2011 Sighting in India - Negative (Parents' confirmation)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019698/Madeleine-McCann-Hopes-dashed-sighting-India.html

2007 - 4 May - Repsol Service Gas Station Albufeira - Negative (Child on CCTV had very long hair)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

2012 - Queenstown New Zealand - Negative (DNA test)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277943/Madeleine-McCann-DNA-tests-prove-New-Zealand-girl-NOT-missing-Maddie.html

On second thoughts, Perhaps we should concentrate only on  sightings that could have been Madeleine and the reasons why (should save alot of bandwidth)

How was the child eliminated from the inquiry? ~  2007 - 4 May - Repsol Service Gas Station Albufeira - Negative (Child on CCTV had very long hair)
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm

Were the parents shown the footage, I know they viewed one petrol station possibility  ... or was the child along with the people accompanying her traced and eliminated that way?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2015, 12:47:14 AM »
Didnt you click on the link? Why not? It shows a child with hair half way down her back!! As stated in my OP, sigh

Offline Brietta

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2015, 01:07:13 AM »
Didnt you click on the link? Why not? It shows a child with hair half way down her back!! As stated in my OP, sigh

I did not see a child with hair halfway down her back; I saw a child with medium length hair with the camera angle above her foreshortening the view and giving the appearance of hair which was longer than it was.

Did you ignore the other photograph?

It would have been useful if you could have provided a link to whether the parents of the missing child saw these images before the files were released; or the methods used by the police to trace her, see her, check her details and eliminate her from the inquiry.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2015, 01:11:20 AM »


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_144.jpg

even her face is nothing like Madeleine Mccann!
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 06:56:32 AM by Eleanor »

Offline Brietta

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2015, 01:32:30 AM »


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P1/01_VOLUME_Ia_Page_144.jpg

even her face is nothing like Madeleine Mccann!

If the child was eliminated from the inquiry on the basis of that photograph alone ... that was shoddy police work ... if you cannot provide evidence that more diligence than that was used to trace her ... she wasn't really eliminated then was she.

The vehicle she was in had no insurance ... and the registered owner had died.  Of course that should have been followed through to its conclusion; pity you fail to see that.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 06:57:15 AM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2015, 01:37:03 AM »
pity you fail to understand hair cant grow so much in one day, duh!!

anyone  agree with brietta?
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 06:58:46 AM by Eleanor »

Offline Brietta

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2015, 01:54:27 AM »
pity you fail to understand hair cant grow so much in one day, duh!!

anyone  agree with brietta?

Did I say I thought that could be Madeleine?  Certainly the woman who reported the sighting thought it might be of substance or she wouldn't have bothered.

What I have asked was ...
  • did her parents see those images before the release of the files?
  • did the police looking for a missing little girl whose description matched that of the child in the petrol station take any steps to locate her and eliminate her from the inquiry

I am afraid following through on the registration to find an uninsured vehicle and a deceased owner and apparently dead ending it there seems a little bit shoddy police work to me.

I think that on the 4th of May a sighting of this nature in the locale should have been followed through until the child and her companion were found and competently checked out.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 06:59:17 AM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2015, 02:03:18 AM »
The police dismissed the sighting for evidentially reliable reasons . HER HAIR was TOO LONG, way too long

It doesnt matter what the sighter thought or whether a car was insured or not, all irrelevant

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« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 07:00:17 AM by Eleanor »

Offline Brietta

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2015, 02:28:24 AM »
The police dismissed the sighting for evidentially reliable reasons . HER HAIR was TOO LONG, way too long

It doesnt matter what the sighter thought or whether a car was insured or not, all irrelevant

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The child's hair was shoulder length.

In the first example you gave ... the child's parents eliminated the possibility it was Madeleine.

In the third example you gave ... DNA eliminated a child so like Madeleine her parents were reported not to know if it was her or not.

In the second example you gave it appears someone who did not know Madeleine decided the hair was too long for it to be her.

Not good enough.  Particularly when one considers the circumstances of the vehicle being driven by the man accompanying her ... that alone should have been cause for reasonable suspicion.

These guys were supposed to be investigators ... why didn't they investigate??
« Last Edit: August 08, 2015, 07:00:59 AM by Eleanor »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2015, 08:45:32 AM »
I think the sighting in the petrol station where a child was seen with a man who was standing away from her and when the child asked 'can I see mummy now'  or similar he replied with 'soon'   what father talks to their child like that?

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2015, 08:45:43 PM »
I think the sighting in the petrol station where a child was seen with a man who was standing away from her and when the child asked 'can I see mummy now'  or similar he replied with 'soon'   what father talks to their child like that?

I don't think you can make any inference from that of an abduction scenario.

Witness Marie Olli from Norway IIRC. Unfortunately there was no way of following this "sighting" up. No vehicle, no cctv. Reported later than it happened. And according to her she was ignored by the British and Spanish police.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Mari_Olli.htm

Offline jassi

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2015, 08:50:23 PM »
I don't think you can make any inference from that of an abduction scenario.

Witness Marie Olli from Norway IIRC. Unfortunately there was no way of following this "sighting" up. No vehicle, no cctv. Reported later than it happened. And according to her she was ignored by the British and Spanish police.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/Mari_Olli.htm

I wonder in what way was she ignored? Did they refuse to take a statement?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2015, 09:04:57 PM »
I wonder in what way was she ignored? Did they refuse to take a statement?

All the details are in the link. Apparently the Spanish didnt want to speak to her (can't imagne what they said)  and the SY who took a statement on 9 May but hadnt got back to her two weeks later? Unless I have read it all wrong.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2015, 09:07:00 PM by mercury »

Offline mercury

Re: Claimed sightings of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2015, 09:14:54 PM »
According to ths video was a language barrier with Spanish police

http://youtu.be/YGPrdCnPTKU

Then phoned LP

I suppose LP directed them to SY?? Seems SY were involved back then?

« Last Edit: August 09, 2015, 09:16:55 PM by mercury »