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Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #435 on: July 11, 2016, 05:21:09 PM »
The party will be destroyed as I predicted it would be when Corbyn was elected many months ago.  It's very sad indeed.  He will have to go when Labour flops at the next GE of course, but what a waste of time it will all have been.

On the other hand other rebel MP's could face discipline or deselection by their constituencies, real Labour MP's could be elected and there could be a Labour landslide for better reasons than last time. What is clear is that predictions have a habit of being wrong these days.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #436 on: July 11, 2016, 05:38:33 PM »
On the other hand other rebel MP's could face discipline or deselection by their constituencies, real Labour MP's could be elected and there could be a Labour landslide for better reasons than last time. What is clear is that predictions have a habit of being wrong these days.
Firstly, what is a "real" Labour MP?  Someone who agrees with Jeremy as leader?  Meaning anyone who doesn't agree with him as leader isn't really a Labour MP? 
Secondly, is it democratic that any MP who mounts a leadership challenge faces the prospect of de-selection thanks to the recently drafted in 3 members who have rallied to support an anti-establishment hero, individuals who may never have actually voted Labour before in their lives, and who had little interest in the party until Jeremy decided to stand as leader?  How exactly is it democratic that an MP, elected as part of the democratic process by their constituents faces being booted out a job for daring to challenge Chairman Corbyn?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #437 on: July 11, 2016, 06:25:06 PM »
Firstly, what is a "real" Labour MP?  Someone who agrees with Jeremy as leader?  Meaning anyone who doesn't agree with him as leader isn't really a Labour MP? 
Secondly, is it democratic that any MP who mounts a leadership challenge faces the prospect of de-selection thanks to the recently drafted in 3 members who have rallied to support an anti-establishment hero, individuals who may never have actually voted Labour before in their lives, and who had little interest in the party until Jeremy decided to stand as leader?  How exactly is it democratic that an MP, elected as part of the democratic process by their constituents faces being booted out a job for daring to challenge Chairman Corbyn?

I don't see those who subscribe to'New Labour' as real Labourites. I don't think new 3 members would have much power in Constituency Parties as yet, and it is they who decide to deselect.

Now we come to what is probably an undemocratic bit, but it's common to all Parties. The Electorate can only vote for candidates chosen by the Party. When you vote you are voting for people who have been 'selected'. I suppose it depends whether people are voting for the Party or the candidate.

However, those who select can also deselect. If they act contrary to the rules though, they can also be disciplined.

When the Coventry South East Constituency Party refused to abandon it's MP after his expulsion from the Party the National Executive suspended the Constituency Party.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #438 on: July 11, 2016, 07:24:05 PM »
I don't see those who subscribe to'New Labour' as real Labourites. I don't think new 3 members would have much power in Constituency Parties as yet, and it is they who decide to deselect.

Now we come to what is probably an undemocratic bit, but it's common to all Parties. The Electorate can only vote for candidates chosen by the Party. When you vote you are voting for people who have been 'selected'. I suppose it depends whether people are voting for the Party or the candidate.

However, those who select can also deselect. If they act contrary to the rules though, they can also be disciplined.

When the Coventry South East Constituency Party refused to abandon it's MP after his expulsion from the Party the National Executive suspended the Constituency Party.
So Chairman Corbyn can squash any challenge to his leadership.  How very democratic.

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Offline mercury

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #440 on: July 14, 2016, 12:33:02 AM »
The fluorescent-pink celebrity makeover didn't work...



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3684188/The-Eagle-FINALLY-landed-Angela-Eagle-launches-desperate-bid-topple-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-branded-Empire-Strikes-candidate-allies.html

People know what corbyns about, mostly, though in the end he will be the last one laughing,but shes a dark horse
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Offline puglove

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #441 on: July 14, 2016, 12:47:19 AM »
People know what corbyns about, mostly, though in the end he will be the last one laughing,but shes a dark horse

Hmm. It might be a bit more reassuring if Corbyn brushed his snaggly teeth and put a bloody tie on!!

Nighty night, sugarplum!!  xx
Jeremy Bamber kicked Mike Tesko in the fanny.

Offline mercury

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #442 on: July 14, 2016, 12:55:06 AM »
Hmm. It might be a bit more reassuring if Corbyn brushed his snaggly teeth and put a bloody tie on!!

Nighty night, sugarplum!!  xx

Rolf  I never looked at his teeth to see if they were brushed or not, ewww

Well, its boring, but I dont judge by attire but substance, hes doing something he obviously believes in for the party, cant fault that

Nite x



Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #443 on: July 14, 2016, 09:37:41 AM »
What a superficial lot we are now. If you haven't got a tie on and gleaming whitened straightened teeth you can't lead a political party!
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #444 on: July 14, 2016, 05:34:16 PM »
What a superficial lot we are now. If you haven't got a tie on and gleaming whitened straightened teeth you can't lead a political party!
Of course you can, but don't expect to win an election looking like a tramp - just look at Michael Foot for instance.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #445 on: July 14, 2016, 06:32:30 PM »
"As of today you either understand that Corbyn is the most disastrous Labour leader of all time, or you are already a plot-holder on Bonkers Island. His net negative poll rating of minus 41 is a record-breaker for a leader of the opposition. In all those millions of houses and flats that the inconvenient masses inhabit, the talk is not of how much they look forward to a Corbyn government and it never will be.

And yet the organisation is said to be awash with keeno joiners who are in it for Jeremy. Labour, it seems, has more excited new members than a YMCA pool party. Yet which party is in government and ahead in the polls? Why, the one with a third of the members of the party that is 8 per cent behind" - David Aronovitch in today's Times.  @)(++(*

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #446 on: July 14, 2016, 09:39:15 PM »
"As of today you either understand that Corbyn is the most disastrous Labour leader of all time, or you are already a plot-holder on Bonkers Island. His net negative poll rating of minus 41 is a record-breaker for a leader of the opposition. In all those millions of houses and flats that the inconvenient masses inhabit, the talk is not of how much they look forward to a Corbyn government and it never will be.

And yet the organisation is said to be awash with keeno joiners who are in it for Jeremy. Labour, it seems, has more excited new members than a YMCA pool party. Yet which party is in government and ahead in the polls? Why, the one with a third of the members of the party that is 8 per cent behind" - David Aronovitch in today's Times.  @)(++(*

Did you mean David Aaronovitch the staunch Blairite?
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #447 on: July 14, 2016, 10:08:56 PM »
Did you mean David Aaronovitch the staunch Blairite?
Yup, he's a journo and he writes a column for the Times.  Say what you like about Blair, he did at least manage to get re-elected 3 times, something which is certainly beyond Corbyn's wildest dreams.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #448 on: July 15, 2016, 06:32:27 AM »
Yup, he's a journo and he writes a column for the Times.  Say what you like about Blair, he did at least manage to get re-elected 3 times, something which is certainly beyond Corbyn's wildest dreams.

Perhaps he too will sell his soul to Murdoch.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #449 on: July 15, 2016, 08:15:25 AM »
Perhaps he too will sell his soul to Murdoch.
I beg your pardon?