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Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #570 on: August 11, 2016, 07:13:38 PM »
Perhaps people have decided to stop voting for snake oil salesmen? Here are his pledges, hover over them for more details;

http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/10_pledges
Do you find them realistic and achievable?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #571 on: August 11, 2016, 07:24:16 PM »
Blast from the past:
Are they S.M.A.R.T    @)(++(*
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". .Sarah Bailey

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #572 on: August 11, 2016, 07:27:38 PM »
"................ in a letter he wrote to Labour leader Michael Foot in July 1982 he said he had "come to Socialism through Marxism" and considered himself on the left. Like Tony Benn he believed that "Labour right" was bankrupt: "Socialism ultimately must appeal to the better minds of the people. You cannot do that if you are tainted overmuch with a pragmatic period in power." Yet, he saw the hard left as no better, saying:
There is an arrogance and self-righteousness about many of the groups on the far left which is deeply unattractive to the ordinary would-be member... There's too much mixing only with people [with] whom they agree".

Now who is that?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". .Sarah Bailey

Offline mercury

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #573 on: August 12, 2016, 01:29:56 AM »
And still no one is comng up as a viable leader

What most people gloss over is that corbyn is trying to debarstardise the party and good luck to him

We dont want phoney tory blairs or others pretending to be labour even they call themselves NEW

 *&*%

Its about honesty and integrity and cleang up politics

Corbyn probably doesnt give a shit if hes PM or not, its only others foaming at the mouth about it

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #574 on: August 12, 2016, 08:09:07 AM »
Do you find them realistic and achievable?

After the war Britain was virtually bankrupt. The Labour government nevertheless achieved a much more radical set of proposals than those which Corbyn is pledging. They built 3 million homes and set the Welfare State up from scratch. In addition they nationalised 20% of British industry.

No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Alfie

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #575 on: August 12, 2016, 08:27:47 AM »
After the war Britain was virtually bankrupt. The Labour government nevertheless achieved a much more radical set of proposals than those which Corbyn is pledging. They built 3 million homes and set the Welfare State up from scratch. In addition they nationalised 20% of British industry.
With $120 billion thanks to Marshall Aid.  Are we still eligible?

Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #576 on: August 12, 2016, 09:05:03 AM »
With $120 billion thanks to Marshall Aid.  Are we still eligible?

It will be a long long time before a majority Labour government ever does anything again.  Corbyn may very well be a legend at his own rallies - but with the Tories at 39% and Labour at 26% I think the electorate may be trying to tell him something.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #577 on: August 12, 2016, 09:27:16 AM »
With $120 billion thanks to Marshall Aid.  Are we still eligible?

The amount quoted was shared between all the countries of Western Europe, it didn't all come to Britain. Much of it was loaned, the last repayment being made in 2006, and;

The loan was made primarily to support British overseas expenditure in the immediate post-war years and not to implement the Labour government's welfare reforms. British treasury officials believed they could implement the Labour government's domestic reforms without the loan if Britain withdrew from all major overseas commitments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-American_loan
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #578 on: August 12, 2016, 09:48:52 AM »
It will be a long long time before a majority Labour government ever does anything again.  Corbyn may very well be a legend at his own rallies - but with the Tories at 39% and Labour at 26% I think the electorate may be trying to tell him something.

"A week is a long time in politics". James Harold Wilson mid 1960s.
"Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government" said David Steele in 1982 encouraged by the opinion polls.
It's at the next general election the truth will be revealed. Up til then about 30% of the population will decide according to the colour of the rosette the monkey is wearing, 60% will haver [both English and Scottish definitions of haver will work!] until one side or another offers them a sucker bet. Ten per cent will be able to see the wood from the trees but they don't count because there aren't enough of them. It was ever thus and ever more shall be so.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". .Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #579 on: August 12, 2016, 10:10:48 AM »
"A week is a long time in politics". James Harold Wilson mid 1960s.
"Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government" said David Steele in 1982 encouraged by the opinion polls.
It's at the next general election the truth will be revealed. Up til then about 30% of the population will decide according to the colour of the rosette the monkey is wearing, 60% will haver [both English and Scottish definitions of haver will work!] until one side or another offers them a sucker bet. Ten per cent will be able to see the wood from the trees but they don't count because there aren't enough of them. It was ever thus and ever more shall be so.

Really no need to bring Wolfie back from retirement.  We've got Derek Hatton and Militant along with the spectacle of the Labour Party imploding.  In the meantime ... the Tories ... anybody remember them or holding their governance to scrutiny? have the the ball at their feet and are running with it.
No sit-com script writer is going to be able to come up with anything to match or surpass the very public suicide of the party established to represent the people and the workers - not the vainglorious ego of any individual.


Classic 1970s BBC comedy Citizen Smith set to return
Citizen Smith is back: Classic 1970s BBC comedy starring Robert Lindsay set to return - News - TV & Radio - The Independent
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #580 on: August 12, 2016, 10:49:38 AM »
Really no need to bring Wolfie back from retirement.  We've got Derek Hatton and Militant along with the spectacle of the Labour Party imploding.  In the meantime ... the Tories ... anybody remember them or holding their governance to scrutiny? have the the ball at their feet and are running with it.
No sit-com script writer is going to be able to come up with anything to match or surpass the very public suicide of the party established to represent the people and the workers - not the vainglorious ego of any individual.


Classic 1970s BBC comedy Citizen Smith set to return
Citizen Smith is back: Classic 1970s BBC comedy starring Robert Lindsay set to return - News - TV & Radio - The Independent

A better comparison;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Very_British_Coup
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #581 on: August 12, 2016, 11:13:38 AM »
Really no need to bring Wolfie back from retirement.  We've got Derek Hatton and Militant along with the spectacle of the Labour Party imploding.  In the meantime ... the Tories ... anybody remember them or holding their governance to scrutiny? have the the ball at their feet and are running with it.
No sit-com script writer is going to be able to come up with anything to match or surpass the very public suicide of the party established to represent the people and the workers - not the vainglorious ego of any individual.


Classic 1970s BBC comedy Citizen Smith set to return
Citizen Smith is back: Classic 1970s BBC comedy starring Robert Lindsay set to return - News - TV & Radio - The Independent

I fail to understand the relevance of a Robert Lindsay sitcom to what I posted.
If you wish to have a political discussion I am your man ; if you wish to deflect and be daft then deal me out.
Have a nice day.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". .Sarah Bailey

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #582 on: August 12, 2016, 11:54:58 AM »
I fail to understand the relevance of a Robert Lindsay sitcom to what I posted.
If you wish to have a political discussion I am your man ; if you wish to deflect and be daft then deal me out.
Have a nice day.


I tend to equate Citizen Smith with the various anti-Roman factions in Life of Brian such as The People's Front of Judea. In fact those factions in the film were a satire on the small ineffectual Trotskyist factions in 1970's UK. It has nothing to say about what is happening in the Labour Party now, despite some efforts to equate the two. A rather desperate ploy, I think.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #583 on: August 12, 2016, 12:33:19 PM »

I tend to equate Citizen Smith with the various anti-Roman factions in Life of Brian such as The People's Front of Judea. In fact those factions in the film were a satire on the small ineffectual Trotskyist factions in 1970's UK. It has nothing to say about what is happening in the Labour Party now, despite some efforts to equate the two. A rather desperate ploy, I think.

A very pertinent question in there ... "what is happening to the Labour Party now?"  Soon perhaps to be transferred into ... "what will happen to the Labour Party under an entryist ideology?"
It may well be worth considering that.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #584 on: August 12, 2016, 01:19:57 PM »
I fail to understand the relevance of a Robert Lindsay sitcom to what I posted.
If you wish to have a political discussion I am your man ; if you wish to deflect and be daft then deal me out.
Have a nice day.


There is a school of thought that the art of debate is to pick up whatever is pitched and to run with it.  The antithesis being the petty put down.
I'm obliged to you for dealing me out of the latter scenario.   8)--))
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"