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Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #795 on: February 19, 2019, 11:00:49 AM »
At the moment they are a protest group. We know what they don't like but not what they want. I don't see where a protest group fit into our system of party politics. Perhaps our MP's will split and form snaller groups like these because in respect of Brexit party politics hasn't managed to reach a concensus. If that happens then our voting system also needs to change to reflect the diversity of views.
It has already been tried in the voting systems incumbent with the introduction of devolution.  I doubt very much if the advent of the magnificent seven has as much to do with Corbyn's demonstrable brexit ineptitude as it does with his cohort's take over.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #796 on: February 19, 2019, 11:03:31 AM »
It seems to me they are protesting because corbyn is unelectable.... Once he's gone and the party moves towards the centre the party will be reunited
Maybe the signed 'loyalty pledge' (did you ever!) was a bridge too far.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #797 on: February 19, 2019, 12:57:00 PM »
It seems to me they are protesting because corbyn is unelectable.... Once he's gone and the party moves towards the centre the party will be reunited

Two days ago Labour were level with the Conservatives in the opinion polls.
 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/support-for-labour-and-tories-neck-and-neck-new-poll-suggests-a4068871.html

No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #798 on: February 19, 2019, 02:23:30 PM »
Two days ago Labour were level with the Conservatives in the opinion polls.
 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/support-for-labour-and-tories-neck-and-neck-new-poll-suggests-a4068871.html

Given the current situation into which Her Majesty's Government have steered the country on their watch any Loyal Opposition worthy of it's salt ... in my opinion ... could have been expected to have been streets ahead in opinion polls (for what they are worth).
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Angelo222

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #799 on: February 19, 2019, 02:48:06 PM »
Given the current situation into which Her Majesty's Government have steered the country on their watch any Loyal Opposition worthy of it's salt ... in my opinion ... could have been expected to have been streets ahead in opinion polls (for what they are worth).

Just goes to show how poor Jeremy Corbyn's rating is around the country when he couldn't even take advantage of the Tory chaos.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #800 on: February 19, 2019, 10:29:12 PM »
Quite, slagging people off behind a screen is jolly unpleasant behaviour isnít it Miss Taken?

I said so didn't I?

Caranna was asking me about someone elses ideas/theory  . Why not get it from the horses mouth?

Nothing wrong with asking questions- it is better if you have access to that person/s  to ask directly. Or use the media they use to challenge them in the even they are untouchable... ^*&&
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #801 on: February 19, 2019, 10:30:20 PM »
There's nothing to support. No Party, no leader, no policies. The gang of four at least put those things in place. People had heard of them too.

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'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #802 on: February 19, 2019, 10:32:58 PM »
There's nothing to support. No Party, no leader, no policies. The gang of four at least put those things in place. People had heard of them too.


One has to wonder why now?  if they were so affected by the anti Semitism why not leave when it was a huge thing?

I never got to read about those claims. Is not agreeing with Israeli land grabbing policy an anti Semite badge now? is that the same as racism?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #803 on: February 20, 2019, 07:23:02 AM »

One has to wonder why now?  if they were so affected by the anti Semitism why not leave when it was a huge thing?

I never got to read about those claims. Is not agreeing with Israeli land grabbing policy an anti Semite badge now? is that the same as racism?

As I understand it there are Jews and there are Zionist Jews. A lot of people equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semetism, but they're not the same thing. I think the Zionists are the ones in favout of land-grabbing.

I don't see what these MP's are thinking, but at least two of them have nothing to lose, having had votes of no confidence passed against them by their constituences.

What people need to remember is that Labour is a left-wing party. It was dragged to the right by Blair and Brown in order to get elected. The Conservatives have been very right-wing imo with theit attacks on public expenditure and it's that which made people turn to a left-wing alternative.

Corbyn's policies are very different to those of 'New Labour' which these MP's preferred.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #804 on: February 20, 2019, 07:28:42 AM »
As I understand it there are Jews and there are Zionist Jews. A lot of people equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semetism, but they're not the same thing. I think the Zionists are the ones in favout of land-grabbing.

I don't see what these MP's are thinking, but at least two of them have nothing to lose, having had votes of no confidence passed against them by their constituences.

What people need to remember is that Labour is a left-wing party. It was dragged to the right by Blair and Brown in order to get elected. The Conservatives have been very right-wing imo with theit attacks on public expenditure and it's that which made people turn to a left-wing alternative.

Corbyn's policies are very different to those of 'New Labour' which these MP's preferred.
There are just Jews.  Zionist is a term of abuse used by Anti- semites who object to the existence of the state of Israel.  IMO. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #805 on: February 20, 2019, 09:01:46 AM »
There are just Jews.  Zionist is a term of abuse used by Anti- semites who object to the existence of the state of Israel.  IMO.

Historically that isn't so, unless you think the United Nations were anti-semetic.

n 1975, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which designated Zionism as "a form of racism and racial discrimination". The resolution was repealed in 1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #806 on: February 20, 2019, 06:12:51 PM »
Historically that isn't so, unless you think the United Nations were anti-semetic.

n 1975, the United Nations General Assembly passed Resolution 3379, which designated Zionism as "a form of racism and racial discrimination". The resolution was repealed in 1991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
What is your quote supposed to prove?
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Offline Brietta

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #807 on: February 20, 2019, 06:26:31 PM »
As I understand it there are Jews and there are Zionist Jews. A lot of people equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semetism, but they're not the same thing. I think the Zionists are the ones in favout of land-grabbing.

I don't see what these MP's are thinking, but at least two of them have nothing to lose, having had votes of no confidence passed against them by their constituences.

What people need to remember is that Labour is a left-wing party. It was dragged to the right by Blair and Brown in order to get elected. The Conservatives have been very right-wing imo with theit attacks on public expenditure and it's that which made people turn to a left-wing alternative.

Corbyn's policies are very different to those of 'New Labour' which these MP's preferred.

New Labour performed the magic trick of being capable of forming majority governments.
The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #808 on: February 20, 2019, 06:34:34 PM »
The latest YOUGOV poll puts voter intention at 38 Conservatives 26 Labour.  Jeremy is doing a marvellous job isnít he?!
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #809 on: February 20, 2019, 06:58:05 PM »
What is your quote supposed to prove?

That Zionism is not the same as Jewishness.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.