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Offline jassi

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2015, 08:35:51 AM »
Identity is something we all have to prove...opening a bank account...getting a passport...jobs...DBS check...the list goes on

By producing various pieces of paperwork, which as some have pointed out, could be forgeries, but which seem to be readily accepted by the authorities.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2015, 11:28:13 AM »
By producing various pieces of paperwork, which as some have pointed out, could be forgeries, but which seem to be readily accepted by the authorities.

Have you seen the caveat on copies of birth certificates?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline John

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #107 on: August 28, 2015, 03:12:37 AM »
This is can new thread spun off from the claimed sightings thread.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #108 on: August 28, 2015, 03:38:51 AM »
Please don't forget this case when it comes to DNA testing proving who the biological parents of a child are.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-african-parents-reunited-with-daughter-17-years-after-kidnapping-1.2975257

Madeleine could be anywhere in the world living with people who may have 8 years of "legal" documentation, records & photographs - and a large percentage of the world knows next to nothing about her.

Offline mercury

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #109 on: August 28, 2015, 04:14:31 AM »

Madeleine could be anywhere in the world living with people who may have 8 years of "legal" documentation, records & photographs - and a large percentage of the world knows next to nothing about her.

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Yeah ok dream on

Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #110 on: August 28, 2015, 04:32:05 AM »
Please don't forget this case when it comes to DNA testing proving who the biological parents of a child are.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-african-parents-reunited-with-daughter-17-years-after-kidnapping-1.2975257

Madeleine could be anywhere in the world living with people who may have 8 years of "legal" documentation, records & photographs - and a large percentage of the world knows next to nothing about her.

Yes, she very well could.  And the first thing they will have done is to get a forged birth certificate.  You can even do it yourself.
Likewise, photographs won't have been difficult.

Offline sadie

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #111 on: August 28, 2015, 09:06:43 AM »
Please don't forget this case when it comes to DNA testing proving who the biological parents of a child are.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/south-african-parents-reunited-with-daughter-17-years-after-kidnapping-1.2975257

Madeleine could be anywhere in the world living with people who may have 8 years of "legal" documentation, records & photographs - and a large percentage of the world knows next to nothing about her.

Exactly



And as Elli says, with money and the right resources which my guys had,  it would not be so difficult to get forged papers.   

They would have taken photos of her thru the time she was with them ... and any old photos of a baby that roughly resembled her to take her back to her "birth"

stephen25000

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Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #112 on: August 28, 2015, 09:27:24 AM »
Exactly



And as Elli says, with money and the right resources which my guys had,  it would not be so difficult to get forged papers.   

They would have taken photos of her thru the time she was with them ... and any old photos of a baby that roughly resembled her to take her back to her "birth"


Strumming in the wind and not one piece of cast iron evidence to suggest she is alive.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #113 on: August 28, 2015, 09:30:23 AM »

Strumming in the wind and not one piece of cast iron evidence to suggest she is alive.

Or that she is dead.

Offline Benice

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #114 on: August 28, 2015, 09:33:23 AM »

Strumming in the wind and not one piece of cast iron evidence to suggest she is alive.

And not one piece of cast iron evidence to suggest she is dead either.

The same goes for Ben Needham.   Would you describe his mother as' strumming in the wind' for still looking for her son after 23 years?

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2015, 09:34:30 AM »
Or that she is dead.

....and not one trace of her in well over 8 years despite extensive worldwide publicity ?


stephen25000

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Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2015, 09:35:41 AM »
And not one piece of cast iron evidence to suggest she is dead either.

The same goes for Ben Needham.   Would you describe his mother as' strumming in the wind' for still looking for her son after 23 years?

I was waiting for that case to be brought up.

Do you think Ben is alive as well ?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2015, 09:39:43 AM »
....and not one trace of her in well over 8 years despite extensive worldwide publicity ?

Some of us have hope, Stephen.  And some of us don't.

stephen25000

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Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2015, 09:43:38 AM »
Some of us have hope, Stephen.  And some of us don't.


You are more than entitled to hope, and perhaps that is something women do more better than men, and I'm not being sexist.

I tend to view the world in a more clinical way, call that pessimistic if you will.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2015, 09:52:20 AM »

You are more than entitled to hope, and perhaps that is something women do more better than men, and I'm not being sexist.

I tend to view the world in a more clinical way, call that pessimistic if you will.

I would rather call it cynical.  But that is your problem and not mine.