Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.

[Eleanor]

Is it? Where is that info please?

You mean you don't watch Telly? 

Taking DNA Samples comes under Chain of Evidence.

[Eleanor]

I think bagged and sent is the week link.

Okay, so there is someone out there that is determined that Madeleine will not be identified, and is in a position to make sure that this never happens.

[stephen25000]

Okay, so there is someone out there that is determined that Madeleine will not be identified, and is in a position to make sure that this never happens.

What ?

[jassi]

This is just silly.  Unless you are suggesting that the child actually is Madeleine, and some powerful body doesn't want anyone to know.

It wouldn't need to a 'powerful body' merely a person with money.

This is all a purely hypothetical discussion anyway.

[Brietta]

The general tone of this thread seems to be that every parent in the world, if approached by the police, should happily agree to a DNA test on their child to prove the child is theirs and not Madeleine McCann.

I think the police would have to follow a process before they got to the stage of asking for tests.

1. They must have reasonable cause to think the child is Madeleine.
2. They must have a reason for rejecting any other proof offered.

If you broaden your horizon just a little you will realise there may be more children in the world who could be affected by separation from their nearest and dearest than Madeleine McCann.

One only has to look at the huge migrations occurring on our doorsteps where it is inevitable that children will become parted from their parents or their parents may die to see the inherent dangers children face.
I can foresee situations where DNA testing may reunite families.

I find this resistance of some to recognise the possibility that Madeleine could have been any one of a number of children sighted in the past extraordinary ... and I remain somewhat perplexed that you seem to think that DNA elimination tests should not be used to eliminate look-a-likes.

We are not talking thousands upon thousands of children being invasively tested here ... we are talking very few donating cells from a mouth swab ... and apart from the little girl dumped by the roadside in a suitcase ... none for a period of some years.

So is your objection uniquely applicable to Madeleine McCann ... or is it a generalisation applicable to all missing children? 

Weird anyway that you envisage police conducting such tests without reasonable cause to do so.

[stephen25000]

If you broaden your horizon just a little you will realise there may be more children in the world who could be affected by separation from their nearest and dearest than Madeleine McCann.

One only has to look at the huge migrations occurring on our doorsteps where it is inevitable that children will become parted from their parents or their parents may die to see the inherent dangers children face.
I can foresee situations where DNA testing may reunite families.

I find this resistance of some to recognise the possibility that Madeleine could have been any one of a number of children sighted in the past extraordinary ... and I remain somewhat perplexed that you seem to think that DNA elimination tests should not be used to eliminate look-a-likes.

We are not talking thousands upon thousands of children being invasively tested here ... we are talking very few donating cells from a mouth swab ... and apart from the little girl dumped by the roadside in a suitcase ... none for a period of some years.

So is your objection uniquely applicable to Madeleine McCann ... or is it a generalisation applicable to all missing children? 

Weird anyway that you envisage police conducting such tests without reasonable cause to do so.

Hardly comparable.

Her's an easy question for you, and in reference to this cases unparalleled publicity.

If Madeleine was alive, who would she possibly be with ?

[Eleanor]

What ?

Exactly.

[Eleanor]

It wouldn't need to a 'powerful body' merely a person with money.

This is all a purely hypothetical discussion anyway.

Phew.  Thank goodness for that.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Hardly comparable.

Her's an easy question for you, and in reference to this cases unparalleled publicity.

If Madeleine was alive, who would she possibly be with ?

Good question!

Who is going to identify Madeleine now? she is no longer a little 3 year old with Tennis Balls... Papers still print those baby pictures. They are of no use at all-well except for the £££$$$€€€.

When you actually think about little Maddie, being abducted by paedophiles it makes it more horrifying that her parents went on a 'total denial of any responsibility',  'celebrity' mission, to 'blaming everyone for not finding her'
And even worse: the parents thought themselves to be more of a victim in the scenario they painted than their daughter.

 A whole new career for Kate, money and riches, and fame ALL there for Maddie to look at while she is being abused?

Maddie the industry- continues to make money for many, greedy b@stards. It Is sickening!

[Brietta]

Hardly comparable.

Her's an easy question for you, and in reference to this cases unparalleled publicity.

If Madeleine was alive, who would she possibly be with ?

Why do you keep on asking the most stupid questions imaginable?

I have made a statement in yet another of my lengthy posts and the very best you can come up with is "Hardly comparable"before sliding off at a tangent which is aimed at discussing nothing.

It suggests to me that either you are an airhead totally incapable of interesting debate or you or you are determined to disrupt every thread on the forum with meaningless drivel and ad hominems.

From observation I would say the latter.

[stephen25000]

Good question!

Who is going to identify Madeleine now? she is no longer a little 3 year old with Tennis Balls... Papers still print those baby pictures. They are of no use at all-well except for the £££$$$€€€.

When you actually think about little Maddie, being abducted by paedophiles it makes it more horrifying that her parents went on a 'total denial of any responsibility',  'celebrity' mission, to 'blaming everyone for not finding her'
And even worse: the parents thought themselves to be more of a victim in the scenario they painted than their daughter.

 A whole new career for Kate, money and riches, and fame ALL there for Maddie to look at while she is being abused?

Maddie the industry- continues to make money for many, greedy b@stards. It Is sickening!

Excellent post.

[stephen25000]

Why do you keep on asking the most stupid questions imaginable?

I have made a statement in yet another of my lengthy posts and the very best you can come up with is "Harldy comparable" before sliding off at a tangent which is aimed at discussing nothing.

It suggests to me that either you are an airhead totally incapable of interesting debate or you or you are determined to disrupt every thread on the forum with meaningless drivel and ad hominems.

From observation I would say the latter.

You don't like that question simply because of the illogic of people such as yourself.

You have claimed Madeleine may still be alive.

So when it comes to an 'airhead' response, you have achieved FIRST PLACE.

[Brietta]

Good question!

Who is going to identify Madeleine now? she is no longer a little 3 year old with Tennis Balls... Papers still print those baby pictures. They are of no use at all-well except for the £££$$$€€€.

When you actually think about little Maddie, being abducted by paedophiles it makes it more horrifying that her parents went on a 'total denial of any responsibility',  'celebrity' mission, to 'blaming everyone for not finding her'
And even worse: the parents thought themselves to be more of a victim in the scenario they painted than their daughter.

 A whole new career for Kate, money and riches, and fame ALL there for Maddie to look at while she is being abused?

Maddie the industry- continues to make money for many, greedy b@stards. It Is sickening!

One point of agreement is that there was a lot of money to be made from Madeleine McCann's disappearance ... a fact which did not escape Mr Amaral when he embarked on his book signing tour and his media career on the back of his botched investigation.

I too find the implication behind Madeleine's abduction horrendous ... but I do not derive the same vicarious pleasure from discussing it as apparently you do.

[Brietta]

You don't like that question simply because of the illogic of people such as yourself.

You have claimed Madeleine may still be alive.

So when it comes to an 'airhead' response, you have achieved FIRST PLACE.

If Madeleine is found there is little doubt that a DNA test will be necessary to establish that without doubt.

May I include my own ad hominem here ... from what I have seen of your posts you are as dissimilar to every and any educationalist of my experience as is chalk from cheese.
Not only do you fail to impart knowledge you appear to be incapable of assimilating it ... people of intellect usually absorb knowledge like a sponge; for me, you appear to be the exception to the rule.

[Eleanor]

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