Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.

[jassi]

Not to mention the stroppy child herself, who may be within her rights to refuse.

[Brietta]

I'm a random member of the public who pays their taxes and has no criminal past. You seem to think that because a child is missing anyone accused of having that child should let their child be DNA tested for the sake of the missing child? How does that help the missing child? I am willing to demonstrate that my child is my child by normal means. I see no need for DNA testing and I very much doubt the police would either.

Your micro chipped much loved moggie which has a very distinguishing feature vanishes from your garden.

Six months down the line you spot a slightly fatter cat looking very much like yours with exactly the same distinguishing feature sitting in another person's window.

When you knock at the door you are given the assurance that the cat has lived there for the past four years.  Would that be sufficient for you or would you prefer to check what the micro chip might say.



I think you fail to recognise that your individual preferences would not come into play as far as the police are concerned if there was the slightest suspicion that the child you claimed as your own might actually be a missing person ... you would have no choice in the matter ... and the majority of innocent parents would find it no big deal.

[Lace]

Were they careful then? Mislaid is quite kind, as it suggests a temporary state of affairs. I and others think they were careless in the extreme. What's insulting and callous about saying so?

I'm not interested in any other perspective but the one of an innocent family with their own child. Why should they have their lives disrupted when they have done nothing wrong at all?

So because the parents were careless to the extreme,   no child resembling Madeleine should be DNA'd,   well poor Madeleine is all I can say.

How are you going to distinguish between parents who have a child that belongs to them and parents who are bringing up an abducted child?

Apart from that in my opinion believing that Madeleine was abducted,  there is a person who goes around stealing children,    I would like that person found and locked up.

[Brietta]

Were they careful then? Mislaid is quite kind, as it suggests a temporary state of affairs. I and others think they were careless in the extreme. What's insulting and callous about saying so?

I'm not interested in any other perspective but the one of an innocent family with their own child. Why should they have their lives disrupted when they have done nothing wrong at all?

There was once a school of thought that exonerated rape if the victim was wearing a short skirt.  The parents of a missing child "mislay" nothing ... it is the perpetrator of the crime who is the offender here.  Just as it is the rapist who is the criminal not the victim.

You and the others you claim to be of your opinion want to remember that.  You also want to remember the innocent victim when you make risible claim of 'disruption' at the thought of a recovery.

[jassi]

There was once a school of thought that exonerated rape if the victim was wearing a short skirt.  The parents of a missing child "mislay" nothing ... it is the perpetrator of the crime who is the offender here.  Just as it is the rapist who is the criminal not the victim.

You and the others you claim to be of your opinion want to remember that.  You also want to remember the innocent victim when you make risible claim of 'disruption' at the thought of a recovery.

I thought the nature of the crime had not been determined. You got some inside information ?

[Eleanor]

I know, it's my child. Why should I have to prove it?

Because, unfortunately, The Law says that you might have to.

[Eleanor]

Your micro chipped much loved moggie which has a very distinguishing feature vanishes from your garden.

Six months down the line you spot a slightly fatter cat looking very much like yours with exactly the same distinguishing feature sitting in another person's window.

When you knock at the door you are given the assurance that the cat has lived there for the past four years.  Would that be sufficient for you or would you prefer to check what the micro chip might say.



I think you fail to recognise that your individual preferences would not come into play as far as the police are concerned if there was the slightest suspicion that the child you claimed as your own might actually be a missing person ... you would have no choice in the matter ... and the majority of innocent parents would find it no big deal.

Correct.

[jassi]

Because, unfortunately, The Law says that you might have to.

Which law is that then?

[Eleanor]

Which law is that then?

No Law Enforcement anywhere is going to block a DNA Test just because the parents said No.

[Alice Purjorick]

Which law is that then?

The one where a bloke refuses to pay maintenance on the grounds the child is not his?

[ferryman]

I thought the nature of the crime had not been determined. You got some inside information ?

Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".

Andy Redwood

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-case-reopen-call

[Anna]

Who ordered the DNA swabs taken from the families, who occupied 5A after the McCanns moved to another apartment?

[jassi]

Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".

Andy Redwood

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-case-reopen-call

Indeed, but that was only his belief. The Portuguese, who have jurisdiction have said no such thing.

[ferryman]

Indeed, but that was only his belief. The Portuguese, who have jurisdiction have said no such thing.

Amaral no longer presides over the investigation

[Anna]

Indeed, but that was only his belief. The Portuguese, who have jurisdiction have said no such thing.

If removing a child, who has since, never been seen again, is not a crime, what else could it be?