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Offline G-Unit

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #345 on: September 08, 2015, 01:57:50 PM »
DNA Cracked it.  And no one refused.

Why would they? They all needed to know if they had their own child or not.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #346 on: September 08, 2015, 02:02:53 PM »
Why would they? They all needed to know if they had their own child or not.

Self interest then.  And tough shit to people like The McCanns.

Offline Brietta

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #347 on: September 08, 2015, 02:13:26 PM »
Self interest then.  And tough shit to people like The McCanns.

Certainly an intriguing story particularly if they have had to sign a gagging order ... wonder why?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #348 on: September 08, 2015, 03:36:49 PM »
Certainly an intriguing story particularly if they have had to sign a gagging order ... wonder why?

Tis all a bit odd.  Nothing seems to be straightforward.  But I can't actually see any mother giving up her own baby for one with a lighter skin, unless she has something to hide.

But I think the point is that none of them actually had a right to refuse a DNA Test, even in El Salvador.

Offline jassi

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #349 on: September 08, 2015, 03:44:52 PM »
Certainly not when it was ordered by their Justice department.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #350 on: September 08, 2015, 03:53:04 PM »
Certainly not when it was ordered by their Justice department.

As it would be by any other Justice Department.

Offline Brietta

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #351 on: September 08, 2015, 04:50:14 PM »
As it would be by any other Justice Department.

There is also the furore that the parents raised and they made it absolutely plain they were not going to shut up until they discovered what had happened to their son.
If switching the babies was an innocent mistake ... and we know that can happen ... why was it only in the face of the publicity that the authorities investigated and rectified the situation?  That could have been done without fuss.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #352 on: September 08, 2015, 04:56:45 PM »
There only seems to have been a fuss because a Tabloid or two got hold of it.
 From what has been reported, it sounds as if the authorities had it well in hand and had arranged a court order and  already got the testing done before the news broke.
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Offline jassi

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #353 on: September 15, 2015, 09:44:55 AM »
This story has taken an interesting twist with the parents being accused of attempting a compensation scam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234064/Mother-centre-El-Salvador-baby-swap-blunder-hits-mad-claims-compensation-scam-sue-hospital.html
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #354 on: September 15, 2015, 10:21:03 AM »
This story has taken an interesting twist with the parents being accused of attempting a compensation scam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234064/Mother-centre-El-Salvador-baby-swap-blunder-hits-mad-claims-compensation-scam-sue-hospital.html

Without DNA testing the possibility is that there would have been long harrowing court cases to attempt a Solomon judgement in this case.  The parents who had been given the wrong child never doubted for a minute that the child they had bonded with, loved and nurtured for the first three months of his life was not their own.

The interesting thing is not the allegation being made by the State ... but that both sets of parents signed a gagging order.
How extraordinary that is may be revealed in due time.

Therefore I agree if this case does go to court there could be interesting revelations involved once those gagging orders are lifted.  If we are interested enough perhaps we might be persuaded to contribute to a gofundme appeal to contribute to the costs ... either to finance the parents or the State as suits one's predilection.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #355 on: September 15, 2015, 10:23:37 AM »
This story has taken an interesting twist with the parents being accused of attempting a compensation scam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3234064/Mother-centre-El-Salvador-baby-swap-blunder-hits-mad-claims-compensation-scam-sue-hospital.html

I have to say I wondered why the mother went back to El-Salvadore to have her baby. Just randomly I though US hospitals were likely to be better. Then I thought she maybe just wanted to be with her family at the time, some women do. The reason being alleged never occurred to me though.
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Offline misty

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #356 on: September 15, 2015, 01:27:16 PM »
I have to say I wondered why the mother went back to El-Salvadore to have her baby. Just randomly I though US hospitals were likely to be better. Then I thought she maybe just wanted to be with her family at the time, some women do. The reason being alleged never occurred to me though.

The average cost of a hospital birth in the US is $10,000. Reason enough in itself to consider the option of a free birth in your home country, despite the risks.

Offline Brietta

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #357 on: September 15, 2015, 02:08:59 PM »
The average cost of a hospital birth in the US is $10,000. Reason enough in itself to consider the option of a free birth in your home country, despite the risks.


The average cost would be for a spontaneous uterine delivery ... in this case the right financial call was made as the birth was not straightforward and a caesarian section was required.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #358 on: September 15, 2015, 02:17:24 PM »
The average cost of a hospital birth in the US is $10,000. Reason enough in itself to consider the option of a free birth in your home country, despite the risks.


El-Salvadore is certainly one of the destinations for 'medical tourists' from the US looking to save money. The treatments aren't free, just cheaper.The San Salvador’s Centro Gynaecologico hospital doesn't do free births, it's a private hospital. I have no idea what the cost is though. I do know that it caters mostly to foreign nationals and provides a western style system of healthcare. It's not recommended for advanced medical treatments, however, so as you say, a bit of a risk.
http://www.globalsurance.com/health-insurance/elsalvador/healthcare/
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Establishing the identity of an abducted child by DNA.
« Reply #359 on: September 15, 2015, 08:15:46 PM »
... And a child born in the USA is automatically a U.S. Citizen.
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