Author Topic: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.  (Read 91181 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Brietta

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #60 on: September 04, 2015, 12:28:50 PM »
I must admit as davel says 'wild speculation' does come to mind. If you sat down and wrote down a list of all the reasons why this press release was made I think the fund being investigated would be one possible reason made in ignorance as would many other possible reasons. The fact that Montclair thinks this reason is perhaps most likely just means you have a bias imo like most people. The most likely reason imo is the investigation is being wound down, but with a mind open to other possibilities.

In my opinion it is actually very bad PR from Madeleine McCann's point of view for the cessation of the investigation to be anticipated on the strength of one or two individuals objecting to the costs.

Whatever the misinformation propagated by those who for some reason best known to themselves have done everything in their power to thwart her parents efforts on her behalf ... it is entirely due to them that the investigation was ever reviewed and reopened.

They are the real Truth seekers and Justice seekers on behalf of Madeleine ... not those who have spent eight years alleging that every penny contributed by well wishers was swallowed by a "fraudulent fund".

Pathetic ~ when without that fund the Drs McCann would have been unable to keep Madeleine in the public eye and eventually succeed in having detectives enjoying powers unavailable to the private detectives they have been funding to start their investigation.

It is worth remembering Rebecca Brooks is back at the helm of the Murdoch Empire after the slight hiccup of her court appearance in the hacking scandal ... there has been a general reshuffling of editors ... so make of that what you will.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #61 on: September 04, 2015, 12:32:00 PM »
In my opinion it is actually very bad PR from Madeleine McCann's point of view for the cessation of the investigation to be anticipated on the strength of one or two individuals objecting to the costs.

Whatever the misinformation propagated by those who for some reason best known to themselves have done everything in their power to thwart her parents efforts on her behalf ... it is entirely due to them that the investigation was ever reviewed and reopened.

They are the real Truth seekers and Justice seekers on behalf of Madeleine ... not those who have spent eight years alleging that every penny contributed by well wishers was swallowed by a "fraudulent fund".

Pathetic ~ when without that fund the Drs McCann would have been unable to keep Madeleine in the public eye and eventually succeed in having detectives enjoying powers unavailable to the private detectives they have been funding to start their investigation.

It is worth remembering Rebecca Brooks is back at the helm of the Murdoch Empire after the slight hiccup of her court appearance in the hacking scandal ... there has been a general reshuffling of editors ... so make of that what you will.

I noticed that, hence my earlier question. ;)

Offline lordpookles

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2015, 12:42:45 PM »
I agree that the grumbles that have started are among those perhaps who are not sympathetic to the plight of the McCanns and have since became disillusioned once they realised the parents were not in the frame. I think unless the mirror was straight out lying it says in the article "Clarence Mitchell said today", so I assume this info is very current. Of course I use the word press release liberally as that actually refers to a written release, but Clarence is their spokesperson, so he generally speaks to and manages the press on their behalf. What we can infer from what he says imo is that the investigation may be winding down. And that isn't from McCann naysayers - it's from the horse's mouth; who I would assume would know more about the inner workings of Operation Grange then most. FWIW I would like to see the investigation continue as long as there is progress being made. Many cases are of course opened and closed several times before they are solved.

Can't stand Brooks! Hideous that she is back at the helm. Nasty woman.

Offline Brietta

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2015, 01:35:24 PM »
I agree that the grumbles that have started are among those perhaps who are not sympathetic to the plight of the McCanns and have since became disillusioned once they realised the parents were not in the frame. I think unless the mirror was straight out lying it says in the article "Clarence Mitchell said today", so I assume this info is very current. Of course I use the word press release liberally as that actually refers to a written release, but Clarence is their spokesperson, so he generally speaks to and manages the press on their behalf. What we can infer from what he says imo is that the investigation may be winding down. And that isn't from McCann naysayers - it's from the horse's mouth, who I would assume would know more about the inner workings of Operation Grange then most. FWIW I would like to see the investigation continue as long as there is progress being made. Many cases are of course opened and closed several times before they are solved.

Can't stand Brooks! Hideous that she is back at the helm. Nasty woman.

I'm actually not too sure that the use of the word "today" is indicative of anything more than a copy and paste of something said in the past including it ... it certainly resonated with me as it did with others as a deja vu thing ... as was the quote attributed to Madeleine's parents.

It is not to Madeleine's benefit to acquiesce publicly that the investigation may be "winding down".  I really don't think it is proper to speculate ~ instead people should step back and allow the police here and in Portugal to take it as far as it will go.  I was heartened by the positive statements from Portugal ... and I don't think that would have been the case a couple of years ago.

As you say the police know best when they have exhausted possibilities and they will wind down when appropriate to do so ... and now that the case has officially been reopened, that can be just as readily be reinstated should they have to shut down.
My impression is that it hasn't yet reached that stage ... I think it has a way to go yet and I think the current SY and PJ investigations are the best chance Madeleine has.

It makes good sense for Madeleine's parents to have a contingency fund in reserve whatever the circumstances.

I find it extraordinary that those who contentedly suggest that donations will have dried up in the wake of the reopening of Madeleine's case ... cannot see that any substantial funding coming in must therefore be as a result of the Dr McCann's own endeavours and is therefore theirs to do with as they see fit.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2015, 01:43:17 PM »
I'm actually not too sure that the use of the word "today" is indicative of anything more than a copy and paste of something said in the past including it ... it certainly resonated with me as it did with others as a deja vu thing ... as was the quote attributed to Madeleine's parents.

It is not to Madeleine's benefit to acquiesce publicly that the investigation may be "winding down".  I really don't think it is proper to speculate ~ instead people should step back and allow the police here and in Portugal to take it as far as it will go.  I was heartened by the positive statements from Portugal ... and I don't think that would have been the case a couple of years ago.

As you say the police know best when they have exhausted possibilities and they will wind down when appropriate to do so ... and now that the case has officially been reopened, that can be just as readily be reinstated should they have to shut down.
My impression is that it hasn't yet reached that stage ... I think it has a way to go yet and I think the current SY and PJ investigations are the best chance Madeleine has.

It makes good sense for Madeleine's parents to have a contingency fund in reserve whatever the circumstances.

I find it extraordinary that those who contentedly suggest that donations will have dried up in the wake of the reopening of Madeleine's case ... cannot see that any substantial funding coming in must therefore be as a result of the Dr McCann's own endeavours and is therefore theirs to do with as they see fit.

If money is paid into the fund, it is fir the fund to decide how it is used according to the company aims. Legally if not morally, all the money could be paid to a private individual as long as it fits into the funds aims. I don't think it would go down well if one of the early benefactors suddenly decided they wanted their money back.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2015, 01:47:19 PM »
I noticed that, hence my earlier question. ;)

'Drs mccanns own efforts' ???

Interesting choice of phrase, bearing in mind their actions triggered this case.

Offline Brietta

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2015, 01:55:46 PM »
If money is paid into the fund, it is fir the fund to decide how it is used according to the company aims. Legally if not morally, all the money could be paid to a private individual as long as it fits into the funds aims. I don't think it would go down well if one of the early benefactors suddenly decided they wanted their money back.

It may very well be that one or more  of the early benefactors who donated to Mr Amaral's fund may have concerns that Leanne Baulch appears to have inexplicably transmogrified into Portimao PC and decide they want their money back.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2015, 01:58:22 PM »
'Drs mccanns own efforts' ???

Interesting choice of phrase, bearing in mind their actions triggered this case.

The abductor the PJ and SY are seeking is the originator ... you seem to keep on overlooking that ... no abductor = no case.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2015, 02:00:29 PM »
'Drs mccanns own efforts' ???

Interesting choice of phrase, bearing in mind their actions triggered this case.

I've lost you there. My comment related to wondering who was now at the helm of The Sun.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2015, 02:03:36 PM »
Most likely scenario AFAIAC is that paper have contacted CM re the story re Sy
CM cannot say no comment.... Which he probably would like to do as this would be misinterpreted .
so he gives a response to the question and posters here think he has approached the press with a statement....barmy as usual

Alfred R Jones

  • Guest
Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2015, 02:04:24 PM »
The above is true imo. They don't simply put out a press release with random words for no purpose. These PR people always choose their words very carefully and usually have an agenda or strategy. What that is is up for debate imo...

Could just be that the investigation is near to winding down and hope to get more money in to continue the search. Could be the fund is being investigated. Could be, could be... We all agree there is some purpose behind these words, or no?
Did the McCanns put out a press release then?

Offline Carana

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2015, 02:10:13 PM »
I agree that the grumbles that have started are among those perhaps who are not sympathetic to the plight of the McCanns and have since became disillusioned once they realised the parents were not in the frame. I think unless the mirror was straight out lying it says in the article "Clarence Mitchell said today", so I assume this info is very current. Of course I use the word press release liberally as that actually refers to a written release, but Clarence is their spokesperson, so he generally speaks to and manages the press on their behalf. What we can infer from what he says imo is that the investigation may be winding down. And that isn't from McCann naysayers - it's from the horse's mouth; who I would assume would know more about the inner workings of Operation Grange then most. FWIW I would like to see the investigation continue as long as there is progress being made. Many cases are of course opened and closed several times before they are solved.

Can't stand Brooks! Hideous that she is back at the helm. Nasty woman.



I certainly agree that investigations should continue until all information is logged for future reference, all leads have been exhausted (as far as possible). This might mean leaving a few pending red flags that can't be taken any further. A team, perhaps working on a different investigation might find the missing clue - if the info is correctly logged in the first place.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2015, 02:18:54 PM »
Did the McCanns put out a press release then?

Precisely it is pure speculation and in my mind totally false to say the mccanns have put out a press release
But it seems posters make things up and then convince themselves and others its true

Alfred R Jones

  • Guest
Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2015, 02:45:43 PM »
Precisely it is pure speculation and in my mind totally false to say the mccanns have put out a press release
But it seems posters make things up and then convince themselves and others its true
Yup, but I did LMAO at the reaction this non-story has had in "Sceptic" Land.  The excitement is palpable as arrests are obviously imminent...  8(*(

Offline Eleanor

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2015, 02:54:00 PM »

How long is it until the next Accounts are released?  Can I wait?