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stephen25000

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #210 on: September 06, 2015, 09:13:18 PM »
You asked for the last libellous article
I  gave it to you
There cannot be another last libellous article

Try to give me an example, as I asked where at a press conference in the UK organized by Mitchell, where the mccanns were asked awkward questions.

I have asked this several times.

stephen25000

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #211 on: September 06, 2015, 09:14:15 PM »
If there had been no libel - the Times would not have settled out of court or apologised.    They did so on the advice of their lawyers who are obviously experts in that field.

Or are you now saying you know better than the lawyers employed by newspapers?

Who produced the photo fits, and who were they given to ?

ferryman

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #212 on: September 06, 2015, 09:16:20 PM »
He libel is arguable.

That has been discussed numerous times.

Now try for another example. 8**8:/:

No it's not.

The only essential difference between Portuguese libel and English libel is where burden of proof lies.

In Portugal, burden of proof lies with the party bringing the action to demonstrate statements that lower reputation, also, to be untrue.

The McCanns (or at least Isabelle on their behalf) has demonstrated numerous of Amaral's allegations (that also lower the reputations of Kate and Gerry) to be manifestly (and proven!) untrue.

Ergo, the question at issue is what level of compensation (for proven libel!) is appropriate for the McCanns.

Pretty much the only thing Amaral can contest is the size of the award ....


stephen25000

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #213 on: September 06, 2015, 09:17:11 PM »
No it's not.

The only essential difference between Portuguese libel and English libel is where burden of proof lies.

In Portugal, burden of proof lies with the party bringing the action to demonstrate statements that lower reputation, also, to be untrue.

The McCanns (or at least Isabelle on their behalf) has demonstrated numerous of Amaral's allegations (that also lower the reputations of Kate and Gerry) to be manifestly (and proven!) untrue.

Ergo, the question at issue is what level of compensation (for proven libel!) is appropriate for the McCanns.

Pretty much the only thing Amaral can contest is the size of the award ....

Let's wait for the appeal.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #214 on: September 06, 2015, 09:17:40 PM »
Try to give me an example, as I asked where at a press conference in the UK organized by Mitchell, where the mccanns were asked awkward questions.

I have asked this several times.
I've already answered that post as well
I'm probably just a bit too quick for you

stephen25000

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #215 on: September 06, 2015, 09:20:04 PM »
I've already answered that post as well
I'm probably just a bit too quick for you


You most certainly haven't, and as to being quicker... 8(*(

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #216 on: September 06, 2015, 09:20:35 PM »
No it's not.

The only essential difference between Portuguese libel and English libel is where burden of proof lies.

In Portugal, burden of proof lies with the party bringing the action to demonstrate statements that lower reputation, also, to be untrue.

The McCanns (or at least Isabelle on their behalf) has demonstrated numerous of Amaral's allegations (that also lower the reputations of Kate and Gerry) to be manifestly (and proven!) untrue.

Ergo, the question at issue is what level of compensation (for proven libel!) is appropriate for the McCanns.

Pretty much the only thing Amaral can contest is the size of the award ....
As I said in his statement amaral talks of appealing against the sentence rather than the judgement

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #217 on: September 06, 2015, 09:26:09 PM »

You most certainly haven't, and as to being quicker... 8(*(
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I have

stephen25000

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #219 on: September 06, 2015, 09:31:14 PM »

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7.55pm this evening
Have another look einstein

stephen25000

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Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #220 on: September 06, 2015, 09:55:46 PM »
7.55pm this evening
Have another look einstein


Good journalists would ask questions of the mccanns as they did in Portugal.

However, never happened at a Mitchell organized conference.

and the mccanns are no one special.

Just 2 parents who didn't know how to take proper care of their children.

Offline misty

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #221 on: September 06, 2015, 11:21:35 PM »
Let's wait for the appeal.

At what stage do you think Amaral will file for bankruptcy?

Offline mercury

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #222 on: September 07, 2015, 01:13:18 AM »
the Times did not libel the Mccanns...they printed facts......and the Mccanns didn't sue either despite some bright sparks thinking they did...the Times probably couldn't be bothered to get into a legal wrangle and a negligent 50k was paid out, it was after all to charity

What the Times printed was factual, the Mccanns had the efits which Redwood plastered all over Crimewatch for years before he did so

To this day (as before) the Mccanns have not publicised these efits in any substantial way anywhere...they must not be important in their minds, like, you know, they know better etc
Even when SY have discounted Tannerman they continue to promote him  and ignore Smithman thereby IGNORING SY..something is not right here, IS IT??

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #223 on: September 07, 2015, 01:26:17 AM »
the Times did not libel the Mccanns...they printed facts......and the Mccanns didn't sue either despite some bright sparks thinking they did...the Times probably couldn't be bothered to get into a legal wrangle and a negligent 50k was paid out, it was after all to charity

What the Times printed was factual, the Mccanns had the efits which Redwood plastered all over Crimewatch for years before he did so

To this day (as before) the Mccanns have not publicised these efits in any substantial way anywhere...they must not be important in their minds, like, you know, they know better etc

Did SY have to get permission from the McCanns to get the Smithman file?

In 2008, the McCanns used money from their charity fund to hire investigators from a firm called Oakley International, led by  former MI5 surveillance officer Henri Exton, to look into the mystery – and they focused on the Smith sighting.

One of the Oakley investigators said last week: “I was absolutely stunned when I watched the programme…It most certainly wasn’t a new timeline and it certainly isn’t a new revelation. It is absolute nonsense to suggest either of those things…And those E-Fits you saw on Crimewatch are ours,” he said.

Exton confirmed last week that the fund had silenced his investigators for years after they handed over their controversial findings. He said: “A letter came from their lawyers binding us to the confidentiality of the report.”

He claimed the legal threat had prevented him from handing over the report to Scotland Yard’s fresh investigation, until detectives had obtained written permission from the fund.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.
« Reply #224 on: September 07, 2015, 01:35:07 AM »
Yes,there is a thread here somewhere (or two or three) about the whole fiasco but I need to go now
Will find it all tomorrow if need to, tara
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