Mitchell: McCanns move funds from Madeleine Fund to another account.

[pegasus]

Why, what's happening in about a week's time?

If hypothetically any significant change of the fund was made on Sept 2nd (date of that PR press release about fund changes), it might be visible at CH after about 15 days. Probably nothing - it's only a guess.

[mercury]

I wonder if the Mccanns would hire new PIs if SY and PJ end their investigations with no result and if so, what they think  it might achieve that Multi millions and untold number of experienced officers working for years, not to mention all their other PIs and the previous investigations, not to mention worldwide media courage and untold appeals, couldn't

Can't see it myself, anyone any ideas?

[Mr Gray]

I wonder if the Mccanns would hire new PIs if SY and PJ end their investigations with no result and if so, what they think  it might achieve that Multi millions and untold number of experienced officers working for years, not to mention all their other PIs and the previous investigations, not to mention worldwide media courage and untold appeals, couldn't

Can't see it myself, anyone any ideas?

I would say its quite possible...intelligent people see failure as a learning tool and don't give up

[faithlilly]

I wonder if the Mccanns would hire new PIs if SY and PJ end their investigations with no result and if so, what they think  it might achieve that Multi millions and untold number of experienced officers working for years, not to mention all their other PIs and the previous investigations, not to mention worldwide media courage and untold appeals, couldn't

Can't see it myself, anyone any ideas?

TBH Mercury I very much doubt anyone but the truly deluded will donate to a further search by the McCanns when so much time and publicans private money has already been thrown at it with zero results.

[G-Unit]

I wonder if the Mccanns would hire new PIs if SY and PJ end their investigations with no result and if so, what they think  it might achieve that Multi millions and untold number of experienced officers working for years, not to mention all their other PIs and the previous investigations, not to mention worldwide media courage and untold appeals, couldn't

Can't see it myself, anyone any ideas?

Some people have called for Op Grange to end, the only reason being cost, because we don't know if they have achieved anything or not. The McCanns, we were led to believe, have more information about it than we do (regular updates?). Can we assume that Op Grange have no viable leads? When the McCanns mention 'continuing the search' does that suggest that they aren't expecting Op Grange to find out what happened? Could SY survive admitting that they have found nothing after all this time? Would their investigation really have been allowed to continue all this time if no progress was being made?

[Alice Purjorick]

Some people have called for Op Grange to end, the only reason being cost, because we don't know if they have achieved anything or not. The McCanns, we were led to believe, have more information about it than we do (regular updates?). Can we assume that Op Grange have no viable leads? When the McCanns mention 'continuing the search' does that suggest that they aren't expecting Op Grange to find out what happened? Could SY survive admitting that they have found nothing after all this time? Would their investigation really have been allowed to continue all this time if no progress was being made?

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1 Probably as nothing has been found to date that has lead to an arrest or locating the child.
2 Don't know.
3 Yes.
4 Yes.
 

[mercury]

Thanks FL, GU and AP
I would imagine donations to the MF are more or less dry and won't really pick up at all....my main question was can anyone be hired to find their child when so many have tried already and everything that has come with it...manpower, media, millions, ...IE what exactly can continuing the search mean that is not happening already or has happened, and would need large sums of money, never mind, not that curious, was just a thought

[Miss Taken Identity]

Thanks FL, GU and AP
I would imagine donations to the MF are more or less dry and won't really pick up at all....my main question was can anyone be hired to find their child when so many have tried already and everything that has come with it...manpower, media, millions, ...IE what exactly can continuing the search mean that is not happening already or has happened, and would need large sums of money, never mind, not that curious, was just a thought

Well, it is illegal to hire investigators while a police file is still open in Portugal.. so how will they get round that?

What witnesses will they question? It just isn't going to happen- the McCanns want to slip into a comfortable life- with a public persona to drag out on an as and when needs be case.

[Gadfly1.3]

Did anyone ever do the research to find out what percentage of public donations (not from the McCanns' income or commercial activities) were spent on searching for Madeleine?  To be specifically clear: on private investigators / press events with direct appeals.

And if so, do you have the financial figures to go with the percentages?

Thanks, Gadfly

[Gadfly1.3]

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Again -- for anyone who has done any research on this:

Did anyone ever do the research to find out what percentage of public donations (not from the McCanns' income or commercial activities) were spent on searching for Madeleine?  To be specifically clear: on private investigators / press events with direct appeals.

And if so, do you have the financial figures to go with the percentages?

Thanks, Gadfly

[faithlilly]

Sadie, give me something on the forum other than skewed logic and judgement, and I'll give you something in response to your Q.

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Again -- for anyone who has done any research on this:

Did anyone ever do the research to find out what percentage of public donations (not from the McCanns' income or commercial activities) were spent on searching for Madeleine?  To be specifically clear: on private investigators / press events with direct appeals.

And if so, do you have the financial figures to go with the percentages?

Thanks, Gadfly

As the accounts are less than transparent and most of what we know regarding PIs etc comes from tabloid articles I think it would be a very difficult subject to research in any depth.

[pegasus]

(snip) Did anyone ever do the research to find out what percentage of public donations (not from the McCanns' income or commercial activities) were spent on searching for Madeleine?  To be specifically clear: on private investigators / press events with direct appeals.

And if so, do you have the financial figures to go with the percentages?

Thanks, Gadfly

I think the accounts are not sufficiently detailed to allow that calculation Gadfly.
Even if the figures were available, it would be a subjective matter as to which activities constitute "search".
(BTW what happened to the middle initial you were considering adopting?)

[Gadfly1.3]

Thanks Pegasus/Faithlily.  Would be nice to have a breakdown of expenses -- scrutiny might reveal if the Fund provides value for money.

Pegasus - after Sadie's signature line re: Alfred, or was it Arthur, I think she would literally self-combust while screaming about lies, agendas, disinformation, insinuation, propaganda and strangely 'pee' (check the Eddie thread) if I did anything to besmirch his memory.  Poor lady.  The R is his.

[pegasus]

Thanks Pegasus/Faithlily.  Would be nice to have a breakdown of expenses -- scrutiny might see if the Fund provides value for money.

Pegasus - after Sadie's signature line re: Alfred, or was it Arthur, I think she would literally self-combust while screaming about lies, agendas, disinformation, insinuation, propaganda and strangely 'pee' (check the Eddie thread) if I did anything to besmirch his memory.  Poor lady.  The R is his.

You can see all the accounts for free at companies house website Gadfly.
O'Dowd has published some examinations of them.
(And I'm glad you're not going to steal someone's initial, that really would be taking the p if you'll excuse the pun).

[mercury]

As the accounts are less than transparent and most of what we know regarding PIs etc comes from tabloid articles I think it would be a very difficult subject to research in any depth.

Only the first year accounts are detailed to a degree* though still not clear as to what was lumped together (see thread at top of ths forum for documents and reports) for yearly records
But as Pegasus says, its a matter of speculation and interpretation "re the search"
However GM is on record as saying in 2010 that the vast majority of the funds were spent directly on search fees

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