Author Topic: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?  (Read 77813 times)

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Offline pegasus

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2015, 02:52:02 AM »
Basically smithman is a normal dad carrying his sleeping daughter home.
The idea that he wasrunning or almost running is just incorrect forum translation as Shining has shown.
He was walking at normal speed.
Obviously not an english speaker, but is that really so surprising as this was not in England, it was in Portugal.
Most likely a portuguese speaker.
The reason he didn't come forward in response to public appeals is elementary -
There never has been a full public smithman appeal in the correct language and country.
I'm not counting the appeals there have been, which stupidly are in the wrong language and country.
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #91 on: September 13, 2015, 09:43:08 AM »
Basically smithman is a normal dad carrying his sleeping daughter home.
The idea that he wasrunning or almost running is just incorrect forum translation as Shining has shown.
He was walking at normal speed.
Obviously not an english speaker, but is that really so surprising as this was not in England, it was in Portugal.
Most likely a portuguese speaker.
The reason he didn't come forward in response to public appeals is elementary -
There never has been a full public smithman appeal in the correct language and country.
I'm not counting the appeals there have been, which stupidly are in the wrong language and country.
That seems logical.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2015, 09:54:11 AM »
Basically smithman is a normal dad carrying his sleeping daughter home.
The idea that he wasrunning or almost running is just incorrect forum translation as Shining has shown.
He was walking at normal speed.
Obviously not an english speaker, but is that really so surprising as this was not in England, it was in Portugal.
Most likely a portuguese speaker.
The reason he didn't come forward in response to public appeals is elementary -
There never has been a full public smithman appeal in the correct language and country.
I'm not counting the appeals there have been, which stupidly are in the wrong language and country.

There's a lot of opinion there. He is a normal Dad? He is not an English speaker? He is most likely a Portuguese speaker?

People did phone in to Crimewatch with names so he isn't necessarily Portuguese.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2015, 10:05:14 AM »
Basically smithman is a normal dad carrying his sleeping daughter home.
The idea that he wasrunning or almost running is just incorrect forum translation as Shining has shown.
He was walking at normal speed.
Obviously not an english speaker, but is that really so surprising as this was not in England, it was in Portugal.
Most likely a portuguese speaker.
The reason he didn't come forward in response to public appeals is elementary -
There never has been a full public smithman appeal in the correct language and country.
I'm not counting the appeals there have been, which stupidly are in the wrong language and country.

So if, as SY seem to believe, Smithman is not the Tannerman is it really conceivable that there were two fathers wondering around PDL on the night of the 3rd with children almost identically clothed and with, oddly, bare feet and no covering on a cold night ?

Really ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

ferryman

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Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #94 on: September 13, 2015, 10:08:24 AM »
So if, as SY seem to believe, Smithman is not the Tannerman is it really conceivable that there were two fathers wondering around PDL on the night of the 3rd with children almost identically clothed and with, oddly, bare feet and no covering on a cold night ?

Really ?

Two?

I should think, literally dozens.

That seems to have been the way the Ocean Club complex worked ....

Offline Carana

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2015, 10:10:18 AM »
So if, as SY seem to believe, Smithman is not the Tannerman is it really conceivable that there were two fathers wondering around PDL on the night of the 3rd with children almost identically clothed and with, oddly, bare feet and no covering on a cold night ?

Really ?

That's possibly why the McCanns thought they might be the same person.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2015, 10:45:41 AM »
Two?

I should think, literally dozens.

That seems to have been the way the Ocean Club complex worked ....

Which night creche takes you past the wasteland to the Smith sighting? Is that a normal route from the creche?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #97 on: September 13, 2015, 10:53:07 AM »
That's possibly why the McCanns thought they might be the same person.

But it seems it wasn't so is it really credible there was two men of almost identical descriptions wandering around PDL with almost identical children or is there more to SY's neutralising of Tanner's sighting than meets the eye ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2015, 10:53:23 AM »
So if, as SY seem to believe, Smithman is not the Tannerman is it really conceivable that there were two fathers wondering around PDL on the night of the 3rd with children almost identically clothed and with, oddly, bare feet and no covering on a cold night ?

Really ?
We were told a few days ago by Pathfinder that men carrying sleeping children through PdL at night was a far more common sight than men carrying suitcases, are you saying this is not the case? 

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2015, 10:54:30 AM »
But it seems it wasn't so is it really credible there was two men of almost identical descriptions wandering around PDL with almost identical children or is there more to SY's neutralising of Tanner's sighting than meets the eye ?
We were also told by G-Unit yesterday that in order for Tannerman to be Smithman he would have had to stop by a hairdressers between sightings, so not really identical.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #100 on: September 13, 2015, 11:05:15 AM »
We were also told by G-Unit yesterday that in order for Tannerman to be Smithman he would have had to stop by a hairdressers between sightings, so not really identical.

Didn't I say *almost* identical Alfie........yep I think I did !!

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #101 on: September 13, 2015, 11:11:00 AM »
We were told a few days ago by Pathfinder that men carrying sleeping children through PdL at night was a far more common sight than men carrying suitcases, are you saying this is not the case?

SY have investigated the night creche - who left? time? carried home? age? route? etc. That's how they discovered crecheman. But they wouldn't have discovered anyone from the night creche being Smithman to make him number 1 suspect. Simple detective work Alfie.

DCI Redwood said: 'Our focus in terms of understanding what happened on the night of May 3 has now given us a shift of emphasis. We are almost certain that the man seen by Jane Tanner is not Madeleine's abductor.

'It takes us through to a position at 10pm when we see another man who is walking towards the ocean, close by to the apartment, with a young child in his arms.'
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #102 on: September 13, 2015, 11:23:03 AM »
Madeleine's abductor is, perhaps, more likely to have been the man seen by the Smiths ....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2015, 11:32:32 AM »
There's a lot of opinion there. He is a normal Dad? He is not an English speaker? He is most likely a Portuguese speaker?

People did phone in to Crimewatch with names so he isn't necessarily Portuguese.

Good Morning G.

Yes, so when was it established that 'smithman was not 'English'? more to the point how was it established?

This man may not have been 'running' but if he is walking fast downhill,  he could well be walking hurriedly, many people do that.

I agree that he should have, and probably still could, be brought to the attention of the Portugues public.

But carrying a child on a cold night without a jacket or blanket or shoes/slippers is very strange indeed.

I just wonder if Maddie had some kind of accident and was being carried to a health centre of sorts? Possibly hit by a car?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Could Smithman be the key to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #104 on: September 13, 2015, 11:33:22 AM »
Madeleine's abductor is, perhaps, more likely to have been the man seen by the Smiths ....

Don't you think it's a tad coincidental that two *almost* identical fathers were both carrying their *almost* identical daughters in such an exposed manner ( no covering, socks, slippers etc ) on, what we were told, was a night cold enough for Tanner to wear a thick fleece ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?