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Offline Carana

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #285 on: September 21, 2015, 10:51:58 AM »
I'd almost forgotten about the forensics ILOR. It sounds like a productive meeting, even if the legal go-ahead hadn't been given at that point.

Just a few thoughts for the pot...

From memory, only one hair in 5A was ever positively identified and that was just Gerry's. Three others had partial roots, but not enough to extract a nuclear DNA profile from. I'd read about attempts to extract nuclear DNA from the top of rootless hairs in the past couple of years, but that seemed fairly hit and miss.

At the time, mtDNA forensic analysis seems to have been limited to establishing a haplotype, which seems about as useful as establishing a dialling code - i.e., a bit better than nothing. It may have been due to legal wrangles over ethical and privacy issues, as medical research pinpointing faulty or mutant genes in the mitochondria was well advanced way before Madeleine disappeared, so the technical capability existed.

I'm also curious about the curtains (and the bedding). In an ideal world, the curtains in the kids' bedroom and behind the sliding door should have been bagged as the capablities of extracting forensic information from cloth has apparently also made progress. I suppose there could also be a small miracle and they actually were, but it's not logged in the files.

If all of these, plus the identities of phone accounts / cybercafe users / people who had access to or had made duplicate keys could be established, there might be a few red flags. Particularly if someone known to have been in the vicinity denied ever having been in there. And, conversely, eliminate a number of people, thus narrowing down potential people of interest.




Offline G-Unit

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #286 on: September 21, 2015, 10:56:46 AM »
What,   you mean they haven't arrested the McCann's because Kate wouldn't answer the questions the Portuguese police put to her?

Don't be ridiculous.    The Portuguese police have been investigating Tractor Man,  now they say they are concentrating on the couple who wanted a child.

All this time all this money,  and all they have to do is get Kate back in for questioning?   You are really talking rubbish.

Do they? When did they say that?
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #289 on: September 21, 2015, 12:14:10 PM »

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546818/Brazilian-couple-who-wanted-a-child-re-examined-in-Madeleine-hunt

Well, if you want to believe an unsourced story in the Express feel free. Let me know when you have a direct quote, won't you.

The Brazilian couple were suspicious because someone said they were keen to have a child and the woman was driving past and she looked into the back of her car! The boat they were supposed to have 'fled' on didn't seem to exist.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EXTERNAL.htm

If the boat was 'Tropico' it arrived in Albufeira on 9th May and stayed there until the end of 2008.

Albufeira Tropico          PT   09/05/07               31/12/08               PT   
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BOATS.htm
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #290 on: September 21, 2015, 12:26:28 PM »
Well, if you want to believe an unsourced story in the Express feel free. Let me know when you have a direct quote, won't you.

The Brazilian couple were suspicious because someone said they were keen to have a child and the woman was driving past and she looked into the back of her car! The boat they were supposed to have 'fled' on didn't seem to exist.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EXTERNAL.htm

If the boat was 'Tropico' it arrived in Albufeira on 9th May and stayed there until the end of 2008.

Albufeira Tropico          PT   09/05/07               31/12/08               PT   
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/BOATS.htm

wouldn't matter where the story came from you would not accept...even Redwood saying the McCanns aren't suspects isn't good enough....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #291 on: September 21, 2015, 01:17:46 PM »
wouldn't matter where the story came from you would not accept...even Redwood saying the McCanns aren't suspects isn't good enough....

You may rely on newspaper gossip and historical statements by departed policemen if you wish, I prefer to rely on direct quotes, preferably up-to-date ones.
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #292 on: September 21, 2015, 01:19:53 PM »
You may rely on newspaper gossip and historical statements by departed policemen if you wish, I prefer to rely on direct quotes, preferably up-to-date ones.

From whom, saying the McCanns and/or their friends are suspects?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #293 on: September 21, 2015, 01:38:34 PM »
From whom, saying the McCanns and/or their friends are suspects?

Yeah, coz the police always let suspects know they're coming!  @)(++(*
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #294 on: September 21, 2015, 01:47:04 PM »
Yeah, coz the police always let suspects know they're coming!  @)(++(*

Yep.

Just as they did in the last round of interviews in Portugal.

Ole.

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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #295 on: September 21, 2015, 01:47:36 PM »
Yeah, coz the police always let suspects know they're coming!  @)(++(*

So it's only in your imagination that Scotland Yard and the PJ consider the McCanns as suspects?

The confirmation is something, I suppose ....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #296 on: September 21, 2015, 01:51:21 PM »
You may rely on newspaper gossip and historical statements by departed policemen if you wish, I prefer to rely on direct quotes, preferably up-to-date ones.
At what point in the last few years did Andy Redwood's statement become "historical" in your view?  When he retired?  The day after he made the statement?  Or at some point in between?  In other words, when did you feel comfortable dismissing it as utterly meaningless?

Offline Brietta

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #297 on: September 21, 2015, 01:52:34 PM »
The first thing they needed to do was make sure the police didn't consider them suspects. Unfortunately most of their actions had the opposite effect.

They believed their child had been abducted, Slarti.
That opinion did not tie in with the chief investigator's theory and therein is the genesis of all campaigns against them, starting with the one to lead to the imprisonment of one or other or both.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #298 on: September 21, 2015, 02:03:19 PM »
Yep.

Just as they did in the last round of interviews in Portugal.

Ole.

Were they suspects or witnesses? Or did it depend which newspaper you read?
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #299 on: September 21, 2015, 02:11:15 PM »
At what point in the last few years did Andy Redwood's statement become "historical" in your view?  When he retired?  The day after he made the statement?  Or at some point in between?  In other words, when did you feel comfortable dismissing it as utterly meaningless?

I never 'dismissed it as utterly meaningless'. You do love to put words in my mouth Alfred. I'm sure it had meaning for DCI Redwood, but he's long gone and his opinions with him. No statements have been made by his replacement at all, so we don't know what her thoughts are. She may agree with Redwood or she may not.
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