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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #390 on: September 24, 2015, 10:25:03 AM »
Osborne slammed over 'tragically daft' waste of money after handing £3million to China to teach them how to play FOOTBALL

But Mr Osborne today insisted government funding for Chinese football was good value for money because it would 'significantly increase' the country's awareness of English football.

Labour's shadow sports minister Clive Efford attacked the decision to hand British money to the cash-rich Chinese government.

He said: 'George Osbourne's time would be far better spent getting the Premier League to pay the money it should be putting into grassroots sport in England, rather than spending taxpayers' money on training footballers in one of the world's richest countries.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3246295/Osborne-slammed-tragically-daft-waste-money-handing-3million-China-teach-play-FOOTBALL.html#ixzz3me0B4GXv

In my opinion the £2million pounds allocated to the Madeleine McCann case to continue what is very obviously a 'live' investigation is not the drain on public resources that some imagine.

I bet there are a lot of Junior Clubs in Britain salivating at the thought of a share  of a £3million pot.

At risk of being accused of xenophobia ... at least British taxpayers' £2million over the next year is being spent to further the case of a British child who suffered an outrage over eight years ago ... made all the more worthwhile that justification has been made to allow continued funding, meaning there continues to be progression and therefore hope of finding out what happened to her.

Not sure if China is one of the world's richest countries, but good find, nevertheless, and certainly puts the cost of investigating Madeleine's disappearance into proper context.

Add to that the chance of (possibly) solving, not one, but several 'missing children' cases, and the expense (or is expenditure a better word?) is put further into context.

Offline Carana

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #391 on: September 24, 2015, 11:08:48 AM »
Osborne slammed over 'tragically daft' waste of money after handing £3million to China to teach them how to play FOOTBALL

But Mr Osborne today insisted government funding for Chinese football was good value for money because it would 'significantly increase' the country's awareness of English football.

Labour's shadow sports minister Clive Efford attacked the decision to hand British money to the cash-rich Chinese government.

He said: 'George Osbourne's time would be far better spent getting the Premier League to pay the money it should be putting into grassroots sport in England, rather than spending taxpayers' money on training footballers in one of the world's richest countries.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3246295/Osborne-slammed-tragically-daft-waste-money-handing-3million-China-teach-play-FOOTBALL.html#ixzz3me0B4GXv

In my opinion the £2million pounds allocated to the Madeleine McCann case to continue what is very obviously a 'live' investigation is not the drain on public resources that some imagine.

I bet there are a lot of Junior Clubs in Britain salivating at the thought of a share  of a £3million pot.

At risk of being accused of xenophobia ... at least British taxpayers' £2million over the next year is being spent to further the case of a British child who suffered an outrage over eight years ago ... made all the more worthwhile that justification has been made to allow continued funding, meaning there continues to be progression and therefore hope of finding out what happened to her.

LOL

What's this about? Anticipated UK TV licensing revenue and shares in UK football clubs?

Was any money invested in sports clubs for UK kids as well, or is this another Daily Wail special that "forgot" to mention it?

I take your point though... but then I think that we both feel that investing in the Madeleine investigation is about more than finding a single missing child.


Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #392 on: September 24, 2015, 12:48:03 PM »
Comparing the amount handed out by the government* to various soccer enterprises "puts into context" the amount handed out by the government for missing child cases ?

A bit like Aleksandr Orlov's dad having to compare Muskrats instead of Meerkats to make ends meet ?

* for government read UK taxpayers.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #393 on: September 24, 2015, 01:15:23 PM »
'.... British child who suffered an outrage over eight years ago ..'

Indeed the outrage of leaving three children unprotected and completely without any excuse.

I was rather thinking about the outrage of someone feeling free to enter a residence and feeling free to steal a child.  Don't you find it extraordinary that this person seems to have dropped off your radar? and the opprobrium rightfully his/hers/theirs directed instead at Madeleine McCann and her family.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #394 on: September 24, 2015, 01:18:19 PM »
I was rather thinking about the outrage of someone feeling free to enter a residence and feeling free to steal a child.  Don't you find it extraordinary that this person seems to have dropped off your radar? and the opprobrium rightfully his/hers/theirs directed instead at Madeleine McCann and her family.

I have never seen any 'opprobrium' directed at Madeleine McCann. If you have please provide cites.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #395 on: September 24, 2015, 01:25:42 PM »
LOL

What's this about? Anticipated UK TV licensing revenue and shares in UK football clubs?

Was any money invested in sports clubs for UK kids as well, or is this another Daily Wail special that "forgot" to mention it?

I take your point though... but then I think that we both feel that investing in the Madeleine investigation is about more than finding a single missing child.

Where does it say that in the OG remit?
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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #396 on: September 24, 2015, 01:26:41 PM »
LOL

What's this about? Anticipated UK TV licensing revenue and shares in UK football clubs?

Was any money invested in sports clubs for UK kids as well, or is this another Daily Wail special that "forgot" to mention it?

I take your point though... but then I think that we both feel that investing in the Madeleine investigation is about more than finding a single missing child.

Although of the school of charity begins at home ... I'm not really averse to money being given to the Chinese ... there is always the chance it may pay dividends in trade deals etc;  there can also be no doubt that our indigenous population of Chinese extraction are net contributors to our economy and taxes.

I was using it as an indicator of the petty small mindedness and scrutiny of every brass farthing of expenditure on Madeleine McCann whether it be from public donations to her fund or from Government (ie taxpayers) money.
Just as there will probably be a spin-off from the Chinese football money ... I am convinced there are more spin offs than we will ever know about associated with the present searches for Madeleine.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #397 on: September 24, 2015, 01:28:45 PM »
Although of the school of charity begins at home ... I'm not really averse to money being given to the Chinese ... there is always the chance it may pay dividends in trade deals etc;  there can also be no doubt that our indigenous population of Chinese extraction are net contributors to our economy and taxes.

I was using it as an indicator of the petty small mindedness and scrutiny of every brass farthing of expenditure on Madeleine McCann whether it be from public donations to her fund or from Government (ie taxpayers) money.
Just as there will probably be a spin-off from the Chinese football money ... I am convinced there are more spin offs than we will ever know about associated with the present searches for Madeleine.

Agreed.

Offline Carana

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #398 on: September 24, 2015, 01:30:35 PM »
Where does it say that in the OG remit?

It doesn't in the remit. Is there another ongoing operation concerning the sexual assaults, or have those been amalgated within Op Grange?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #399 on: September 24, 2015, 01:44:19 PM »
Agreed.

Then look at it this way. Imagine it was Kerry Needham who was receiving untold millions to look for Ben and the McCanns who had received only £800000 funding. How philosophical with regard to the unparalleled funding would the faithful be then ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #400 on: September 24, 2015, 01:52:46 PM »
Then look at it this way. Imagine it was Kerry Needham who was receiving untold millions to look for Ben and the McCanns who had received only £800000 funding. How philosophical with regard to the unparalleled funding would the faithful be then ?

Am I supposed to be one of the "faithful"?

I'd hope that the resources allocated were proportionate to the estimated work that could be achieved, whichever missing person it concerns. If new promising leads were to emerge for anyone, then I'd expect further funds to be made available.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #401 on: September 24, 2015, 01:59:47 PM »
Am I supposed to be one of the "faithful"?

I'd hope that the resources allocated were proportionate to the estimated work that could be achieved, whichever missing person it concerns. If new promising leads were to emerge for anyone, then I'd expect further funds to be made available.

You answer like a politician Carana.

Let me put it more simply. Would you be happy that Madeleine's case, when the review was launched, was given £800000 of funding while Ben's, at the outset, was given £5 million ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #402 on: September 24, 2015, 02:27:59 PM »
Is this the end...who knows...it depends what has or will be found...we just do not have enough information to make a sensible judgement...but of course that will not stop the deluded

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #403 on: September 24, 2015, 02:32:06 PM »
I have never seen any 'opprobrium' directed at Madeleine McCann. If you have please provide cites.

it is directed at the search for Maddie which is the same thing. The powers that be...those with more knowledge than us have decided that this spending is justified.....that's it...if you don't like it raise a petition to Cameron...see how many signatures you get...put your name on it...see what your neighbours think of you

Offline Carana

Re: Met given 6 months and £2 million more to find Maddie. Is this the end?
« Reply #404 on: September 24, 2015, 02:40:25 PM »
You answer like a politician Carana.

Let me put it more simply. Would you be happy that Madeleine's case, when the review was launched, was given £800000 of funding while Ben's, at the outset, was given £5 million ?

As I don't have access to the respective grant submissions with cost-based feasible action points in relation to clearly established objectives on which these grants were hopefully based, I don't see how the question can be answered with any objectivity.

On the other hand, if you do, do pass them over and I might change my view.

In the meantme, I'll stand by my earlier reply.