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Offline mercury

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2015, 12:02:31 AM »
I think in some people's eyes it excuses the lack of prominence of the e-fits on FM site.

Well yes as far as Alfred is concerned at least

Offline G-Unit

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2015, 06:13:34 AM »
I was asking why the PJ might not have circulated the images, not the Met.

Assuming the PJ have got copies of the e-fits?
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2015, 08:06:04 AM »
Assuming the PJ have got copies of the e-fits?
Why wouldn't they have copies of the e-fits?

Offline G-Unit

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2015, 08:12:10 AM »
Why wouldn't they have copies of the e-fits?

Just that they haven't said anything about having them, that's all.
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Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2015, 08:22:10 AM »
Just that they haven't said anything about having them, that's all.
There not difficult to get hold of are they?  Perhaps the PJ just don't go in for photofits.  Or maybe it's something to do with their secrecy laws.  Or maybe they don't think Smithman is relevant to this case.  Or maybe they've already id'ed and dismissed Smithman or made him an arguido.   Or maybe they're being obstructive and don't really want this case to be solved.  Who knows?  But apparently we the public have a right to know as it's OUR business, so maybe we should start a campaign of letters and e-mails to the relevant authorities and McCanns  to find out?

Offline G-Unit

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2015, 08:53:46 AM »
There not difficult to get hold of are they?  Perhaps the PJ just don't go in for photofits.  Or maybe it's something to do with their secrecy laws.  Or maybe they don't think Smithman is relevant to this case.  Or maybe they've already id'ed and dismissed Smithman or made him an arguido.   Or maybe they're being obstructive and don't really want this case to be solved.  Who knows?  But apparently we the public have a right to know as it's OUR business, so maybe we should start a campaign of letters and e-mails to the relevant authorities and McCanns  to find out?

Carry on then Alfred.
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stephen25000

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Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2015, 08:59:09 AM »
There not difficult to get hold of are they?  Perhaps the PJ just don't go in for photofits.  Or maybe it's something to do with their secrecy laws.  Or maybe they don't think Smithman is relevant to this case.  Or maybe they've already id'ed and dismissed Smithman or made him an arguido.   Or maybe they're being obstructive and don't really want this case to be solved.  Who knows?  But apparently we the public have a right to know as it's OUR business, so maybe we should start a campaign of letters and e-mails to the relevant authorities and McCanns  to find out?

So who is paying for the investigation Alfred ?

Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2015, 09:07:39 AM »
Imagine there was a portuguese tourist, who does not understand english, walking down that section of Rua Escola and Travessa Das Escadhinas at about 10pm carrying his sleeping daughter.

Imagine he reads all the portuguese language pages on the official MF site, and all the portuguese pages on the SY site. Show me the page where he will read the street names and his own description so that he comes forward. And if he turns on the television, might he see the portuguese language translation of Crimewatch? Unfortunately not, because when the portuguese broadcasters tried, the BBC for legal reasons refused permission. So how exactly is this man supposed to know SY want to contact him? Learn english so he can read the appeals? Become a psychic? Guess?

The Polícia Judiciária have primacy in Madeleine McCann's case.

Apparently Tannerman was ruled out of the inquiry by police work in Britain; perhaps judicial secrecy bars us from being told that similar diligence in Portugal has also ruled out Smithman.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2015, 09:23:49 AM »
"The Smithman e-fits were prominent in Portuguese media around the time of the Crimewatch programme."
Do you have a link to one of those portuguese media articles please?

"The Sun visited Luz around that time and put up posters of the e-fits"
But those posters failed to state the sighting location.
They were just vague "have you seen this man".
They should have given the sighting location.
The following are from StopTheMyths.  I am not a member there, so I dug it out of Google cache.  Carana is a member there, so possibly has much more extensive knowledge on this point.

SIC
http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2013/10/14/policia-tera-detido-homem-suspeito-no-desaparecimento-de-maddie

Euronews
Euronews Mundo Portugues

 Novo suspeito para o caso de Madeleine McCann (New suspect in the Madeleine McCann Case)

14/10 05:46 CET


O desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann, em Maio de 2007, na Praia da Luz tem uma nova versão na perspectiva da policia britânica que reabriu o caso e referenciou vários suspeitos.
Dois retratos-robôs de um homem foram revelados. A Scotland Yard considera prioritário identificar este suspeito cuja descrição foi dada por duas testemunhas diferentes na Praia da Luz.

O inspector Andy Redwood considera que “há uma significativa mudança na versão dos acontecimentos que foram tornados públicos até ao momento.”.

442 pessoas foram interrogadas desde a revisão da investigação 15 das quais cidadãos britânicos que são considerados de interesse.

Dados de telemóveis de centenas de pessoas entre turistas, locais e funcionários do resort foram igualmente passados a pente fino assim como estão a ser verificadas identificações de predadores sexuais que estariam próximos do local na altura em que o desaparecimento ocorreu.
Mais informação sobre Rapto

Expresso PT
EXPRESSO PT

Scotland Yard today unveils two portraits robot of a man who considers "priority" to identify the scope of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, six years ago in Portugal.
The man is described as white, with short brown hair and medium height, between the ages of 20 and 40 years and beardless face, says the British police in a statement. Picture was released in Portugal by Angência Lusa.

A new investigation of the authorities called "Operation Grange ', brings together about 35 people - and shall have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence - and intends to review the entire chronology of the case of the disappearance of British girl .

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of ​​Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, where the child disappeared, the May 3, 2007.
Programme on BBC reconstitutes disappearance

Tonight, the two pictures will be shown in the program "Crimewatch" station BBC British public, dedicated to issuing appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police. Reconsituição will be a crime and will be interviewed Kate and Gerry McCann, Maddie's parents, as well as Detective Andy Redwood, which coordinates research.

"While this man may or may not be the key to unlock this research, find him and talk to him is vital for us," said Detective Andy Redwood, the statement said. "The chronology that now established gave new importance to witnesses and sightings of people around Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine disappeared," he explained.

"Our work so far has changed significantly the chronology of events and that he thought he had succeeded, in the public domain. Allowed us to work with the 'Crimewatch' to build the most detailed reconstruction to date," he said. "I hope that when the public come to our research and our call to bring more information to take us further forward," he concluded.

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal. "This is far from being our only line of research and there will be more robot portraits of other people, who also have an interest in identifying. Such people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, or in the days before", he stressed the detective.

CdM

My friends, this was taken from Correio da Manhã newspaper:

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/capa/ ... oje-141013

manhunt to find Madeleine

portrait of the suspect

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/notic ... aso-maddie

Girl disappeared on May 3, 2007

Learn how is the primary suspect in the Maddie case

British police released two portraits robot , one 2007 and one current , the suspect is identifying priority for the investigation into the disappearance of Maddie .

Scotland Yard released two pictures of a robot man who considers it a priority to identify in the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal six years ago , British police said .

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of Praia da Luz , in the Algarve , where the English child disappeared , the May 3, 2007 .

Both portraits will be shown on Monday night at the station program Crimewatch BBC public , dedicated to the issue of public appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police .

In the program, with Redwood , will be interviewed the child's parents , Kate and Gerry McCann , and shown a reconstruction of what has happened that night to try to encourage people with information on this man , to contact the police .

The program will also be made an appeal to people who have been in or near Praia da Luz and that have not been questioned by the police , to pass relevant information about the case .

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal .

British police revealed that about 35 people are working on this investigation , called "Operation Grange " , and shall have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence .

Besides Portugal , the British authorities sent letters to 30 other countries asking for information about people and are analyzing mobile phone data identified as being in the area and time of Madeleine's disappearance .

Jornal de Noticias

http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?co ... e%20McCann

Meet the new face of the suspect in the Maddie case

Scotland Yard announced this Monday , two portraits robot of a man who considers it a priority to identify the scope of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal six years ago .

Police released pictures robot to identify man related with the Maddie case

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of Praia da Luz , in the Algarve , where the English child disappeared that day , the May 3, 2007 .

The man was described as being white , with short brown hair and average height , age between 20 and 40 years and beardless face , referred to Scotland Yard Metropolitan Police in a statement .

The team is carrying out a review of the case is to focus attention on what has happened in the timeline that will succeed the " abduction " , thus considering " substantially higher " the testimony of these witnesses .

" While this man may or may not be the key to unlock this investigation, find him and talk to him is vital for us," said Detective Andy Redwood , in his statement.

Both portraits will be shown this Monday evening , the program Crimewatch BBC public station dedicated to the issue of public appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police .

In the issue , and Redwood , will be interviewed the child's parents , Kate and Gerry McCann , and shown a reconstruction of what has happened that night to try to encourage people with information on this man , to contact the police .

The program will also be made an appeal to people who have been in or near Praia da Luz and that have not been questioned by the police , to pass relevant information about the case .

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal .

" This is far from being our only line of research and there will be more robot portraits of other people , who also have an interest in identifying . Such people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance , or in the days before " , he stressed the detective .

British police says it has to work in this investigation , called "Operation Grange " about 35 people and we also have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence .

Besides Portugal , the British authorities sent letters to 30 other countries asking for information about people and are analyzing mobile phone data identified as being in the area and time of Madeleine's disappearance .

Forty- one people were classified by Scotland Yard " of interest " to the investigation , including an unspecified number of 15 Portuguese and British , on which the police think there are " reasons to suspect" , including precedents concerning pedophilia .

O Publico

Meet the new face of the suspect in the Maddie case

Scotland Yard announced this Monday , two portraits robot of a man who considers it a priority to identify the scope of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal six years ago .

Police released pictures robot to identify man related with the Maddie case

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of Praia da Luz , in the Algarve , where the English child disappeared that day , the May 3, 2007 .

The man was described as being white , with short brown hair and average height , age between 20 and 40 years and beardless face , referred to Scotland Yard Metropolitan Police in a statement .

The team is carrying out a review of the case is to focus attention on what has happened in the timeline that will succeed the " abduction " , thus considering " substantially higher " the testimony of these witnesses .

" While this man may or may not be the key to unlock this investigation, find him and talk to him is vital for us," said Detective Andy Redwood , in his statement.

Both portraits will be shown this Monday evening , the program Crimewatch BBC public station dedicated to the issue of public appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police .

In the issue , and Redwood , will be interviewed the child's parents , Kate and Gerry McCann , and shown a reconstruction of what has happened that night to try to encourage people with information on this man , to contact the police .

The program will also be made an appeal to people who have been in or near Praia da Luz and that have not been questioned by the police , to pass relevant information about the case .

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal .

" This is far from being our only line of research and there will be more robot portraits of other people , who also have an interest in identifying . Such people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance , or in the days before " , he stressed the detective .

British police says it has to work in this investigation , called "Operation Grange " about 35 people and we also have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence .

Besides Portugal , the British authorities sent letters to 30 other countries asking for information about people and are analyzing mobile phone data identified as being in the area and time of Madeleine's disappearance .

Forty- one people were classified by Scotland Yard " of interest " to the investigation , including an unspecified number of 15 Portuguese and British , on which the police think there are " reasons to suspect" , including precedents concerning pedophilia.

Euronews Portugal
Euronews Portugal Bulletin 11:30 14th October

This was the sixth item on the 11:30 bulletin today after
Italy Refugee Survivors
US Crisis
Syria
India Bridge Disaster
Russian Anti Migrant Riots
French Elections


RTP
RTP Informação News Bulletin 12:00 October 14th

Though it was third item on the schedule there was a very long section on the PT economy as they are undergoing major cuts to the pensions etc and at least six party spokesmen commented. So it was 20 minutes into the bulletin before any international news.


I cannot pick up a great deal from the spoken commentary but it does seem to cover all the material so far released by SY which is very promising.  {The poster's comment, not mine.}

Sky
Sky not impressed with Portuguese Reporting.
http://news.sky.com/story/1154336/madeleine-mccann-appeal-falls-flat-in-portugal


Madeleine McCann: Appeal Falls Flat In Portugal
Images of the new suspect are not headline news and the reconstruction is not airing prominently on Portuguese television.
1:33pm UK, Monday 14 October 2013


By Robert Nisbet, Europe Correspondent in Praia da Luz

The new Madeleine McCann appeal may have triggered headlines around the world but in Portugal the response has been muted.

While the e-fit images of the man detectives believe is "vital" to their enquiry can be found on the inside of national and regional newspapers, this is no longer front page news.

Paul Luckman, editor of the largest English language newspaper, The Portugal News, says the continued level of interest outside the country is "astounding".

"I don't think anyone can understand after six years how police based in England can find out what happened here. It doesn't really hang together," he said.

As for his readers: "They are fed up with it. They've lost interest in the whole case."
E-fits of suspect police want to question Police say this man is of "vital importance" to their investigation

Many still bridle at suggestions from British journalists that the original Portuguese investigation was bungled.

In the hours after Kate McCann discovered her daughter was missing, police officers and local residents joined a search of the area.

Mr Luckman says at that time it was assumed the girl had woken and gone in search of her parents, who were dining at a nearby tapas restaurant.

He said child psychologists have determined young children on their own invariably walk downhill, so most of the effort was focused on the roads leading from the apartment towards the beach.
Paul Luckman Paul Luckman says some cannot see how English police can solve the case

There was criticism that officers failed to consider an abduction and therefore did not seal the apartment to keep any possible evidence from being tainted.

Graham Roberts, who is retired and has lived here for 18 years, said people cannot understand why the details of the investigation and the case are still being "raked over".

"They are saying, 'why is it just this one case?' There are loads of other cases around the world, why has this one got such an ongoing high profile?"

One man who lives near the apartment but didn't want to be named said it was "crazy" that the reconstruction is not airing prominently on Portuguese television.
Madeleine McCann missing Scene from a TV reconstruction of Madeleine's disappearance

"Surely the people who might be able to help identify these suspects are not holiday makers but the locals who live here day in, day out?" he said.

The case has certainly left some Portuguese police bitter about the perception of the force, as well as what they regard as outside interference.

One person described the original lead investigator Gonçalo Amaral as a "broken man". He is now being sued for libel by the McCanns over two books he wrote afterwards.

*****************************

As I said at the start, I am not a member, therefore I get the links from Google cache, and most links are incomplete.  Carana was commenting on this page at StopTheMyths, so I would suggest that route if you want more.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2015, 09:43:51 AM »
The following are from StopTheMyths.  I am not a member there, so I dug it out of Google cache.  Carana is a member there, so possibly has much more extensive knowledge on this point.

SIC
http://sicnoticias.sapo.pt/pais/2013/10/14/policia-tera-detido-homem-suspeito-no-desaparecimento-de-maddie

Euronews
Euronews Mundo Portugues

 Novo suspeito para o caso de Madeleine McCann (New suspect in the Madeleine McCann Case)

14/10 05:46 CET


O desaparecimento de Madeleine McCann, em Maio de 2007, na Praia da Luz tem uma nova versão na perspectiva da policia britânica que reabriu o caso e referenciou vários suspeitos.
Dois retratos-robôs de um homem foram revelados. A Scotland Yard considera prioritário identificar este suspeito cuja descrição foi dada por duas testemunhas diferentes na Praia da Luz.

O inspector Andy Redwood considera que “há uma significativa mudança na versão dos acontecimentos que foram tornados públicos até ao momento.”.

442 pessoas foram interrogadas desde a revisão da investigação 15 das quais cidadãos britânicos que são considerados de interesse.

Dados de telemóveis de centenas de pessoas entre turistas, locais e funcionários do resort foram igualmente passados a pente fino assim como estão a ser verificadas identificações de predadores sexuais que estariam próximos do local na altura em que o desaparecimento ocorreu.
Mais informação sobre Rapto

Expresso PT
EXPRESSO PT

Scotland Yard today unveils two portraits robot of a man who considers "priority" to identify the scope of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, six years ago in Portugal.
The man is described as white, with short brown hair and medium height, between the ages of 20 and 40 years and beardless face, says the British police in a statement. Picture was released in Portugal by Angência Lusa.

A new investigation of the authorities called "Operation Grange ', brings together about 35 people - and shall have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence - and intends to review the entire chronology of the case of the disappearance of British girl .

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of ​​Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, where the child disappeared, the May 3, 2007.
Programme on BBC reconstitutes disappearance

Tonight, the two pictures will be shown in the program "Crimewatch" station BBC British public, dedicated to issuing appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police. Reconsituição will be a crime and will be interviewed Kate and Gerry McCann, Maddie's parents, as well as Detective Andy Redwood, which coordinates research.

"While this man may or may not be the key to unlock this research, find him and talk to him is vital for us," said Detective Andy Redwood, the statement said. "The chronology that now established gave new importance to witnesses and sightings of people around Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine disappeared," he explained.

"Our work so far has changed significantly the chronology of events and that he thought he had succeeded, in the public domain. Allowed us to work with the 'Crimewatch' to build the most detailed reconstruction to date," he said. "I hope that when the public come to our research and our call to bring more information to take us further forward," he concluded.

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal. "This is far from being our only line of research and there will be more robot portraits of other people, who also have an interest in identifying. Such people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, or in the days before", he stressed the detective.

CdM

My friends, this was taken from Correio da Manhã newspaper:

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/capa/ ... oje-141013

manhunt to find Madeleine

portrait of the suspect

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/notic ... aso-maddie

Girl disappeared on May 3, 2007

Learn how is the primary suspect in the Maddie case

British police released two portraits robot , one 2007 and one current , the suspect is identifying priority for the investigation into the disappearance of Maddie .

Scotland Yard released two pictures of a robot man who considers it a priority to identify in the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal six years ago , British police said .

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of Praia da Luz , in the Algarve , where the English child disappeared , the May 3, 2007 .

Both portraits will be shown on Monday night at the station program Crimewatch BBC public , dedicated to the issue of public appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police .

In the program, with Redwood , will be interviewed the child's parents , Kate and Gerry McCann , and shown a reconstruction of what has happened that night to try to encourage people with information on this man , to contact the police .

The program will also be made an appeal to people who have been in or near Praia da Luz and that have not been questioned by the police , to pass relevant information about the case .

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal .

British police revealed that about 35 people are working on this investigation , called "Operation Grange " , and shall have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence .

Besides Portugal , the British authorities sent letters to 30 other countries asking for information about people and are analyzing mobile phone data identified as being in the area and time of Madeleine's disappearance .

Jornal de Noticias

http://www.jn.pt/Dossies/dossie.aspx?co ... e%20McCann

Meet the new face of the suspect in the Maddie case

Scotland Yard announced this Monday , two portraits robot of a man who considers it a priority to identify the scope of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal six years ago .

Police released pictures robot to identify man related with the Maddie case

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of Praia da Luz , in the Algarve , where the English child disappeared that day , the May 3, 2007 .

The man was described as being white , with short brown hair and average height , age between 20 and 40 years and beardless face , referred to Scotland Yard Metropolitan Police in a statement .

The team is carrying out a review of the case is to focus attention on what has happened in the timeline that will succeed the " abduction " , thus considering " substantially higher " the testimony of these witnesses .

" While this man may or may not be the key to unlock this investigation, find him and talk to him is vital for us," said Detective Andy Redwood , in his statement.

Both portraits will be shown this Monday evening , the program Crimewatch BBC public station dedicated to the issue of public appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police .

In the issue , and Redwood , will be interviewed the child's parents , Kate and Gerry McCann , and shown a reconstruction of what has happened that night to try to encourage people with information on this man , to contact the police .

The program will also be made an appeal to people who have been in or near Praia da Luz and that have not been questioned by the police , to pass relevant information about the case .

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal .

" This is far from being our only line of research and there will be more robot portraits of other people , who also have an interest in identifying . Such people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance , or in the days before " , he stressed the detective .

British police says it has to work in this investigation , called "Operation Grange " about 35 people and we also have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence .

Besides Portugal , the British authorities sent letters to 30 other countries asking for information about people and are analyzing mobile phone data identified as being in the area and time of Madeleine's disappearance .

Forty- one people were classified by Scotland Yard " of interest " to the investigation , including an unspecified number of 15 Portuguese and British , on which the police think there are " reasons to suspect" , including precedents concerning pedophilia .

O Publico

Meet the new face of the suspect in the Maddie case

Scotland Yard announced this Monday , two portraits robot of a man who considers it a priority to identify the scope of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal six years ago .

Police released pictures robot to identify man related with the Maddie case

The portraits were drawn based on testimonials and descriptions of two different witnesses who have seen the man in the area of Praia da Luz , in the Algarve , where the English child disappeared that day , the May 3, 2007 .

The man was described as being white , with short brown hair and average height , age between 20 and 40 years and beardless face , referred to Scotland Yard Metropolitan Police in a statement .

The team is carrying out a review of the case is to focus attention on what has happened in the timeline that will succeed the " abduction " , thus considering " substantially higher " the testimony of these witnesses .

" While this man may or may not be the key to unlock this investigation, find him and talk to him is vital for us," said Detective Andy Redwood , in his statement.

Both portraits will be shown this Monday evening , the program Crimewatch BBC public station dedicated to the issue of public appeals for information concerning crimes under investigation by police .

In the issue , and Redwood , will be interviewed the child's parents , Kate and Gerry McCann , and shown a reconstruction of what has happened that night to try to encourage people with information on this man , to contact the police .

The program will also be made an appeal to people who have been in or near Praia da Luz and that have not been questioned by the police , to pass relevant information about the case .

The appeal will be made public by Scotland Yard in equivalent programs in TV channels from Germany, Holland and Ireland. The detective in charge of the investigation says he intends to do the same in Portugal .

" This is far from being our only line of research and there will be more robot portraits of other people , who also have an interest in identifying . Such people were seen on the day of Madeleine's disappearance , or in the days before " , he stressed the detective .

British police says it has to work in this investigation , called "Operation Grange " about 35 people and we also have six members of the board of Faro Judicial Police deployed to assist in due diligence .

Besides Portugal , the British authorities sent letters to 30 other countries asking for information about people and are analyzing mobile phone data identified as being in the area and time of Madeleine's disappearance .

Forty- one people were classified by Scotland Yard " of interest " to the investigation , including an unspecified number of 15 Portuguese and British , on which the police think there are " reasons to suspect" , including precedents concerning pedophilia.

Euronews Portugal
Euronews Portugal Bulletin 11:30 14th October

This was the sixth item on the 11:30 bulletin today after
Italy Refugee Survivors
US Crisis
Syria
India Bridge Disaster
Russian Anti Migrant Riots
French Elections


RTP
RTP Informação News Bulletin 12:00 October 14th

Though it was third item on the schedule there was a very long section on the PT economy as they are undergoing major cuts to the pensions etc and at least six party spokesmen commented. So it was 20 minutes into the bulletin before any international news.


I cannot pick up a great deal from the spoken commentary but it does seem to cover all the material so far released by SY which is very promising.  {The poster's comment, not mine.}

Sky
Sky not impressed with Portuguese Reporting.
http://news.sky.com/story/1154336/madeleine-mccann-appeal-falls-flat-in-portugal


Madeleine McCann: Appeal Falls Flat In Portugal
Images of the new suspect are not headline news and the reconstruction is not airing prominently on Portuguese television.
1:33pm UK, Monday 14 October 2013


By Robert Nisbet, Europe Correspondent in Praia da Luz

The new Madeleine McCann appeal may have triggered headlines around the world but in Portugal the response has been muted.

While the e-fit images of the man detectives believe is "vital" to their enquiry can be found on the inside of national and regional newspapers, this is no longer front page news.

Paul Luckman, editor of the largest English language newspaper, The Portugal News, says the continued level of interest outside the country is "astounding".

"I don't think anyone can understand after six years how police based in England can find out what happened here. It doesn't really hang together," he said.

As for his readers: "They are fed up with it. They've lost interest in the whole case."
E-fits of suspect police want to question Police say this man is of "vital importance" to their investigation

Many still bridle at suggestions from British journalists that the original Portuguese investigation was bungled.

In the hours after Kate McCann discovered her daughter was missing, police officers and local residents joined a search of the area.

Mr Luckman says at that time it was assumed the girl had woken and gone in search of her parents, who were dining at a nearby tapas restaurant.

He said child psychologists have determined young children on their own invariably walk downhill, so most of the effort was focused on the roads leading from the apartment towards the beach.
Paul Luckman Paul Luckman says some cannot see how English police can solve the case

There was criticism that officers failed to consider an abduction and therefore did not seal the apartment to keep any possible evidence from being tainted.

Graham Roberts, who is retired and has lived here for 18 years, said people cannot understand why the details of the investigation and the case are still being "raked over".

"They are saying, 'why is it just this one case?' There are loads of other cases around the world, why has this one got such an ongoing high profile?"

One man who lives near the apartment but didn't want to be named said it was "crazy" that the reconstruction is not airing prominently on Portuguese television.
Madeleine McCann missing Scene from a TV reconstruction of Madeleine's disappearance

"Surely the people who might be able to help identify these suspects are not holiday makers but the locals who live here day in, day out?" he said.

The case has certainly left some Portuguese police bitter about the perception of the force, as well as what they regard as outside interference.

One person described the original lead investigator Gonçalo Amaral as a "broken man". He is now being sued for libel by the McCanns over two books he wrote afterwards.

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Well researched, Shining.

The psychology is interesting.

Apparently what was worldwide news caused not too much of a ripple in Portugal ... the sympathies of some lying with the "broken man" ... and not the missing little girl; surely a strange apportioning of embarrassment and blame.

One can only hope that as the case has progressed the focus will have moved from past prejudices ... however, one must admire the power of propaganda on the national psyche, Viva Salazar! Viva Portugal!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2015, 11:50:25 AM »
Indeed Brietta and we Brits are so much cleverer than our Potuguese counterparts. We would never be fooled the the propaganda eminating from our press, would we ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pegasus

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2015, 12:20:00 PM »
Thankyou ShiningInLuz for your research. I still don't see anything in portuguese which specifically appeals for a man who was walking down Rua Escola Primeira and possibly Travessa Das Escadhinas.
I give an example in a current case in York of a missing Ms Lawrence. Police released an appeal in the national language for people to identify a man and the important thing is as well as publishing the cctv they also gave the location (street names) of the sighting.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2015, 01:09:01 PM »
The Polícia Judiciária have primacy in Madeleine McCann's case.

Apparently Tannerman was ruled out of the inquiry by police work in Britain; perhaps judicial secrecy bars us from being told that similar diligence in Portugal has also ruled out Smithman.

Was that before or after he was deffed out by the PJ before the case was archived?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2015, 01:36:02 PM »
Was that before or after he was deffed out by the PJ before the case was archived?

Sorry I am having difficulty interpreting that ... what exactly is it you are trying to say?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2015, 01:37:02 PM »
Was that before or after he was deffed out by the PJ before the case was archived?

And don't forget by their own investigators who saw Tanner as an unreliable witness.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?