Author Topic: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits  (Read 65434 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #270 on: August 28, 2016, 09:20:40 AM »
Judging bt the person making the statement it would be GA.
So there is no such complaint as libel against Goncalo Amaral?  Yet I have the feeling he is more a victim rather than the master of his own downfall.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #271 on: August 28, 2016, 05:02:30 PM »
So there is no such complaint as libel against Goncalo Amaral?  Yet I have the feeling he is more a victim rather than the master of his own downfall.

Oh there is and it is cracked down on he same as other libels.
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Offline Carana

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #272 on: August 28, 2016, 05:35:06 PM »
That's what police do ferryman, they ask questions and suggest answers.    @)(++(*

I've watched some amazing police interviews that have been released on YT. In those, no harsh interview techniques, no threats of mistreatment... Just a very gentle form of questioning that led to the person in question being bound up in a metaphorical binding tape of their own making.


Offline jassi

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #273 on: August 28, 2016, 06:13:05 PM »
I've watched some amazing police interviews that have been released on YT. In those, no harsh interview techniques, no threats of mistreatment... Just a very gentle form of questioning that led to the person in question being bound up in a metaphorical binding tape of their own making.

Except for those who refuse to answer questions - they avoid getting  tied up.
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Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #274 on: August 28, 2016, 06:27:42 PM »
Except for those who refuse to answer questions - they avoid getting  tied up.

Indeed.

Wonder why they didn't show her the police sketches taken from the Smith descriptions to the inquiry to see if she might have noticed any matching faces hanging around in the run up to Madeleine's disappearance?

Whoops ... they didn't do any.  Apparently of the three witness statements we have seen none were able to adequately describe the man's features.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #275 on: August 28, 2016, 06:41:53 PM »
I've watched some amazing police interviews that have been released on YT. In those, no harsh interview techniques, no threats of mistreatment... Just a very gentle form of questioning that led to the person in question being bound up in a metaphorical binding tape of their own making.
I understand exactly what you are getting at, but this would have been mighty difficult in a situation where the PJ were speaking in Portuguese and the interviewee was speaking in English.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #276 on: August 28, 2016, 06:50:43 PM »
I understand exactly what you are getting at, but this would have been mighty difficult in a situation where the PJ were speaking in Portuguese and the interviewee was speaking in English.

Ricardo Paiva, who conducted Kate McCann's arguida interrogation is a fluent English speaker ~ hence his appointment as liaison officer to the victim's family.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #277 on: August 28, 2016, 07:21:25 PM »
Ricardo Paiva, who conducted Kate McCann's arguida interrogation is a fluent English speaker ~ hence his appointment as liaison officer to the victim's family.
The legality was that the interview be conducted in Portuguese.  Whether Paiva needed an interpreter was not relevant.

Which other PJ officer sat in and how was his/her English?  How good was Kate's lawyer's English?  Why was there a translator if everything could be done in English?  Do English police officers fluent in Portuguese conduct serious interviews with a native-Portuguese speaker in Portuguese if the incident in question occurred in England?

The technique described by Carana has a high success rate at places like airports, in weeding out illegal immigrants, as opposed to body language or behavioural analysis, which was found to have as much chance of accuracy as tossing a coin.
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ferryman

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Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #278 on: August 28, 2016, 07:26:54 PM »
Except for those who refuse to answer questions - they avoid getting  tied up.

Perhaps, questions predicated on actual evidence rather than manufactured pap.

ferryman

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Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #279 on: August 28, 2016, 07:29:36 PM »
I understand exactly what you are getting at, but this would have been mighty difficult in a situation where the PJ were speaking in Portuguese and the interviewee was speaking in English.

In the Cipriano interviews, language was no barrier; techniques of intimidation (far worse, even, than those employed against the McCanns) disturbingly prevalent.

Offline pegasus

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #280 on: August 28, 2016, 08:31:26 PM »
Ricardo Paiva, who conducted Kate McCann's arguida interrogation is a fluent English speaker ~ hence his appointment as liaison officer to the victim's family.
... who was, coincidentally, the target of an internet honeytrap and email hack combination - I wonder what country that was organised from?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #281 on: August 28, 2016, 09:00:28 PM »
... who was, coincidentally, the target of an internet honeytrap and email hack combination - I wonder what country that was organised from?
Is that below the belt?
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Online misty

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #282 on: August 28, 2016, 09:07:40 PM »
... who was, coincidentally, the target of an internet honeytrap and email hack combination - I wonder what country that was organised from?

Was that proven to be Paiva or someone cloning him?

Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #283 on: August 28, 2016, 09:44:08 PM »
Was that proven to be Paiva or someone cloning him?

Nope ... according to Joana (just google ... joana morais and paiva ... for the link) it was him in the flesh so to speak.
Disciplinary action was taken against him by his bosses.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: SY Crimewatch Smithman Efits
« Reply #284 on: August 28, 2016, 09:46:31 PM »
Is that below the belt?

              @)(++(*
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....