Did Eddie and Keela work as a team prior to the Madeleine McCann case?

[stephen25000]

GROUNDHOG DAY...no ones opinion on here has any value.....purely from basic chemistry I cannot see any molecules being present after 3 months

Cite please.

[Alice Purjorick]

Here you go FM

There are three cases alone in this article where they did - two in Ireland and one in the USA

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/incoming/attracta-sniffer-dog-joins-hunt-for-new-killer-28114027.html

By Brendan McDaid
PUBLISHED
06/12/2006

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The sniffer dog that helped detectives nail Attracta Harron's killer has assisted gardai probing the horrific killing of Cork woman Meg Walsh, it has emerged.

The sniffer dog that helped detectives nail Attracta Harron's killer has assisted gardai probing the horrific killing of Cork woman Meg Walsh, it has emerged.
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Six-year-old English springer spaniel Eddie from South Yorkshire Police and his female companion Keela have formed part of a specialist dog team hunting for clues after the 35-year-old's badly decomposed body was found floating in Waterford Quays on October 15.
Ms Walsh's disappearance sparked the largest man-hunt ever mounted in the Republic's south east after members of the public joined detectives and garda in their search when the mother-of-one failed to show up for her work on October 2.
Following the discovery of Ms Walsh's body, police in South Yorkshire were asked to bring Keela and Eddie, who has also been involved in searches for 15-year-old Arlene Arkinson, to the Republic.
Eddie helped police put evil killer Trevor Hamilton behind bars earlier this year after the victim recovery dog found 63-year-old Attracta Harron's blood on the 23-year-old murderer's burned-out Hyundai.
Eddie also found her body in a shallow grave in April 2003.
Martin Grime, who handles both Eddie and Keela, said today: "Obviously the body had been found already, so we went into investigative mode and the dogs were brought to Waterford and Dublin.
"Eddie would be tasked to tell us where the body had been before it was found and would indicate any clothing that would have come into contact with the body.
"Keela was there to find any blood traces.
"We cannot comment on whether the dogs found anything as the investigation is still ongoing."
In June this year, both dogs were taken to an unspecified location in the USA to help locate a two-year-old girl who has disappeared from her home.
Eddie led detectives to a creek beside an American Civil War graveyard which was subsequently drained.
Investigations in this case are also ongoing.
The dogs' trip to the US occurred shortly after Eddie returned to Ulster earlier this year for a third time to help in the hunt for missing Arlene Arkinson.
The Tyrone teenager went missing after leaving a disco in Bundoran, Co Donegal, on August 13, 1994.
Mr Grime said today: "We are now waiting to here about the Arlene Arkinson case. A review on that is due shortly. We don't give up."
A garda spokeswoman said today that investigations into the death of Ms Walsh were ongoing.

That kills off this thread then mercury. QED
And from the ashes like a Phoenix rises another bleedin' dog thread.

[Mr Gray]

Cite please.

surely you can work that out for yourself

[stephen25000]

surely you can work that out for yourself

So you have no cite ?

[pegasus]

GROUNDHOG DAY...no ones opinion on here has any value.....purely from basic chemistry I cannot see any molecules being present after 3 months

There were lots of molecules still there after three months. If there weren't there would have been an empty void. When Eddie stood on the flowerbed did he fall into the void caused by the complete absence of molecules and disappear forever? I have checked the video and he does not disappear, which IMO indicates there were possibly still at least a few molecules there for him to stand on.

[Mr Gray]

So you have no cite ?

what part of my posts don't you understand

there is no science to back the alerts
therefore everything is personal opinion.
personal opinions are not supported by cites otherwise they would be more than opinion...

however anyone with a basic knowledge of chemistry would realise that a small residue would disappear due to wind and rain..via vapourisation and rain dilution.....there would therefore be no molecules left

[ferryman]

That kills off this thread then mercury. QED
And from the ashes like a Phoenix rises another bleedin' dog thread.

Does it?

UK police dogs used to search home of Meg Walsh
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 01:00
First published:
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 01:00

 
Four sniffer dogs brought to house for second search after body found

Barry Roche,

Southern Correspondent
Gardaí investigating the murder of Waterford woman Meg Walsh have carried out an examination of her home in the city using specialist sniffer dogs brought in from Britain to see if they could find any evidence of her being killed at her house.
Three sniffer dogs from Wales along with a specialist sniffer dog from Yorkshire searched the detached house at Ballinakill Downs where Ms Walsh lived with her husband, bus driver John O'Brien.
The house had been examined by Garda technical experts in the week following Ms Walsh's disappearance on October 1st but gardaí later handed back the house to Mr O'Brien.
However on Sunday, following the discovery of Ms Walsh's naked and badly beaten body in the River Suir, gardaí under Supt Dave Sheahan took possession of the house again and cordoned it off for further examination by the specialist dog units from Britain.
One of the dogs, Keela, an English springer spaniel belonging to the South Yorkshire Police, has been used by police forces all over the UK and by the FBI in the US to locate blood and other human fluids for evidential purposes.
According to a spokesman for South Yorkshire Police, Keela has been "specifically trained to detect minute human blood deposits" and can pinpoint deposits which are not detected by present forensic techniques.
Gardaí believe the dogs may be able to uncover any traces of blood or other human tissue belonging to Ms Walsh which could throw light on where exactly she was murdered in an attempt to move forward their investigation into her killing.
Supt Sheahan confirmed that gardaí are treating Ms Walsh's home as a crime scene and hope the search by the sniffer dogs will find some previously missed evidence.
He confirmed that the specialist dogs - who are accompanied by their handlers - will be available to gardaí for a number of days and they expect to use them at a number of locations around Waterford.
"We're also very anxious to locate where exactly Ms Walsh's body was dumped in the Suir and in that regard we will be using the sniffer dogs in searches along the river to try and locate where her killer disposed of her body."
Supt Sheahan also confirmed that gardaí are strongly of the belief that Ms Walsh's killer used her silver Mitsubishi Carisma car registration 01 W 2060 to transport and dispose of her body by dumping it in the river.
He said they had received a good response from the public to a reconstruction in which gardaí placed two similar Mitsubishi Carisma cars fitted with the same plates as Ms Walsh's car in two locations in Waterford city.
"The incident room was swamped with calls immediately after we carried out the reconstruction and we are currently working through those calls and assessing the information we received in the hope it will help us progress our inquiry," he said.
According to a senior Garda source, the movements of Ms Walsh's car following the last confirmed sighting at her home at 6am on October 1st and before it was found in the Uluru car park at 1.03am on October 4th are critical.
"A huge amount revolves around the movements of the car - if we can get information on that we believe we will make significant progress in bringing this investigation to a successful conclusion," said the source.
Meanwhile a rosary for Ms Walsh took place at Fermoy Hospital last night. Her body will be removed from the hospital tonight at 7pm to St Nicholas's church in her native Killavullen for requiem Mass at noon on Thursday.

If there were 4 sniffer dogs and 3 were from Wales (SAM dogs by the sound of it) that leaves one over, Keela ...

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/uk-police-dogs-used-to-search-home-of-meg-walsh-1.1016878

[Alfred R Jones]

Or a body lay at the bottom of the foliage for somewhere over 40 minutes causing the area to be contaminated by cadaver scent ?

Lain there how long after the moment of death?

[Lyall]

the alerts are meaningless

But they patently aren't meaningless to you and ferryman: You never stop talking about them!

Huge contradiction there.

[ferryman]

But they patently aren't meaningless to you and ferryman: You never stop talking about them!

Huge contradiction there.

We never stop underlying and emphasising how meaningless they are.

That is because (others) rattle on endlessly about "cadaver scent" here, there and everywhere.

What is meaningful is slaying the canard of cadaver scent (in respect of the first, shelved, enquiry and anything whatever to do with Madeleine's disappearance.)

[pathfinder73]

Nice find Mercury.

"Eddie would be tasked to tell us where the body had been before it was found and would indicate any clothing that would have come into contact with the body." (MG)

[Lyall]

We never stop underlying and emphasising how meaningless they are.

That is because (others) rattle on endlessly about "cadaver scent" here, there and everywhere.

What is meaningful is slaying the canard of cadaver scent (in respect of the first, shelved, enquiry and anything whatever to do with Madeleine's disappearance.)

Well you've clearly failed at that. After eight years you should have a list of references as long as your arm to support your theory/theories.

But constructing such a list would be impossible since all anyone can possibly truthfully say is we simply don't know why the dogs alerted precisely where they did and nowhere else.

[Alfred R Jones]

Well you've clearly failed at that. After eight years you should have a list of references as long as your arm to support your theory/theories.

But constructing such a list would be impossible since all anyone can possibly truthfully say is we simply don't know why the dogs alerted precisely where they did and nowhere else.

Why then do so many "sceptics" insist on the importance and relevance of the dog alerts in this case?

[ferryman]

Well you've clearly failed at that. After eight years you should have a list of references as long as your arm to support your theory/theories.

But constructing such a list would be impossible since all anyone can possibly truthfully say is we simply don't know why the dogs alerted precisely where they did and nowhere else.

When you preach truth to minds unreceptive to receiving truth, there's nothing else you can do.

And since just about all I assert is in the official files, why would I need (other!) references?

[Lyall]

Why then do so many "sceptics" insist on the importance and relevance of the dog alerts in this case?

I can't speak for the masses out there in social media, or speak for anyone here either. On social media there's much exaggeration, we all know that. But on this forum weeks, even months, have gone by without people talking about dogs or alerts. Then you know who will start talking about them again, after which there's perfectly understandable motivation to defend MG's reputation from attacks.