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Offline Holly Goodhead

"Evil killer Jeremy Bamber posts bizarre apology..."
« on: September 29, 2015, 10:56:48 PM »
Evil killer Jeremy Bamber posts bizarre apology for 'failing to clear his name' to parents he massacred.



28 September 2015


The vile 54-year-old murdered five members of his family and was jailed 30 years ago.

Jeremy Bamber has marked 30 years behind bars by sharing a bizarre apology addressed to his parents who died by his hand.

Posted in a blog, the 54-year-old said he regrets not being able to clear his name and says he feels he let his parents down.

He massacred five members of his family in 1985 - his adoptive parents, his sister Sheila and her six-year-old twins - gunning his parents down at their farmhouse home.

Bamber said in his blog, posted from behind bars: "It feels so painful at times to know that I've let my mum and dad down so badly.

"Dad especially would be disappointed in me for having failed to prove my innocence and therefore cleared their names too within thirty years.

"I can hear his voice in my mind 'Thirty years Jem, you've had thirty years mate to sort this lot out'.

"I know people might think it odd that dad and I often called each other 'mate' - it was an in joke between us."

Bamber, now 54, added: "On the 6th August 1985 [the night of the murders] I went home leaving dad to collect the last trailer of rape seed from the combine at 10:00pm and leave it for me to tip and process in the morning and my last words to dad when I left that evening were 'Thanks mate I'll see you in the morning'.

"I said a good night to mum and Sheila and off I went."

But jury at Chelmsford Crown Court later decided that in spite of his denial, it was Jeremy who took a rifle and proceeded to shoot dead his adoptive parents Nevill and June Bamber, his sister Shelia "Bambi" Caffell and her twin six-old sons Nicholas and Benjamin.

Convicting Bamber, Mr Justice Drake described the young farmer as "evil beyond belief".

The slaughter at the family's remote farmhouse in the village of Tolleshunt D'Arcy, Essex rocked the small community and in spite of Bamber's efforts to have the case re-tried with claims of new evidence, he remains in Long Lartin jail.

In 1994 the then Home Secretary Michael Howard ruled that in Bamber's case, a "whole life" sentence should mean exactly that and that he will die in prison.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/evil-killer-jeremy-bamber-posts-6531547

« Last Edit: September 30, 2015, 11:21:58 AM by Holly Goodhead »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Admin

Jeremy Bamber's blog

Sunday, 27 September 2015

I wanted to write about what it’s been like having now spent thirty complete years in jail. A total of 10958 days (Including 8 added leap year days) give or take a few hours (8) on 29th September, equalling 263 thousand hours of wrongful imprisonment.

Looking at it like that makes it seem such a long time. No doubt it’s at least a third of my life. It feels so painful at times to know that I’ve let my mum and dad down so badly. Dad especially would be disappointed in me for having failed to prove my innocence and therefore cleared their names too within thirty years. “Thirty years Jem, you’ve had thirty years mate to sort this lot out”, his voice is still clear in my mind.

I know people might think it odd that dad and I often called each other ‘Mate’, it was an in joke between us. This began in 1980. Both dad and I enjoyed the movies and from the age of 12 onwards we’d quite often go to the cinema together. Once I’d learnt to drive and had my own car we’d go to the cinema a little less often as I used to like taking a friend instead. Bringing your dad along if you were hoping for a kiss and a cuddle just wasn’t cool, even I knew that. It sounds so corny thinking back that my taking a young lady to the pictures might have led to something more than friendship, but I had no idea how to do this dating malarkey way back then.

Going back to dad and I, on our movie going days we would always catch the new James Bond film when that came out. We both loved Paul Newman and Robert Redford films and Clint Eastwood too. So anything that they were in we’d go to the cinema and see together.

Returning to 1980, the fact that we enjoyed the cinema so much meant that we would always try and watch the film review show on the BBC. It was hosted by Barry Norman and we nearly always agreed with his opinions on the latest film releases. If Barry really raved about a particular movie we’d both go to the cinema and watch it together, or when video films could be rented we’d get the film and watch it at home.

The movie review show was called ‘Film ’78’ or ’79 or whatever the year was the show
was on. So in 1980 it was called ‘Film 80’ and dad’s joke, silly as it seems, had us both in hysterics the first time he said it and giggling every week afterwards. Dad said dead pan as if he was being completely serious: “Jem, what are we doing watching this and why is Barry Norman presenting a programme about a bloke called Phil Matey? Don’t know about you but who is this Phil Matey fellow anyway?” I can recall looking at dad and thinking are you really that much of a fool or are you just making a silly joke, a play on words. I didn’t know as dad was poker faced with that quizzical look in his eyes, and he caught me, to which I answered, “It’s Film 80 dad!” and immediately I got it, Phil Matey, and we laughed so much and for so long that no sooner had the giggles subsided than one of us would say ‘Phil Matey’ and start again.

 A day or two later we were at Doe’s, the agricultural suppliers, buying various spares and bits for the farm. The guy serving us turned to his colleague and said: “Do us a favour matey, can you get us such and such oil filters from the rack?” Dad turned to me and said “What do you reckon Jem, is his name Phil?” to which we both ended up in hysterics, made even funnier cos the guy who was serving us just stood and looked at us as if we were off our heads, with dad trying to pull it together, getting it under control and then saying “Where’s Phil with the oil filters?”, trying so hard to keep his face straight, failing and giggling again causing me to giggle. And so the cycle went on that is until we got back to the van. From then on we called each other ‘Matey’ which fairly quickly was shortened to ‘Mate’. Right up to the 6th August 1985 and my going home leaving dad to collect the last trailer of rape seed from the combine at 10:00pm and leave it for me to tip and process in the morning. My last words to dad when I left that evening were, “Thanks Mate, I’ll see you in the morning.” I said a “Good night” to mum and Sheila and off I went.

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

Obviously this is not a point to be taken to the Appeal Court, it would mean nothing to them, but to dad and I our 'in' joke was important to both of us on so many levels. In order for me to clear all of our names, I’ve had to try to understand everything, including my own actions and motivations.

 I do feel a bit of a “Larry let-down” for not being able to resolve this case until now. It’s in part due to the fact that corrupt former Essex Police officers who constructed a false case against me are now mostly deceased. There are a few who are still enjoying their retirement, who we appear to have evidence upon, that reveals them to be corrupt former Essex Police Officers in many ways. For instance, the CPS failed to take into account a report, dated 06.09.85 that was written by Detective Chief Superintendent Kenneally which stated:

                        “The evidence indicates that Sheila was responsible”

Clearly, Essex Police have not disclosed to the Defence or the CPS this extensive review and the supporting evidence, which resulted in the finding that Sheila carried out the shootings. The continued concealment of this report suggests that the corruption within Essex Police in the 1980’s remains endemic at the very highest level of their organisation today. If this was not so then the current Chief Constable would have disclosed DSI Kenneally’s report to us, and all the supporting evidence that showed that Sheila was responsible, as well as all the other material listed upon our petition for disclosure.

There is a huge amount of corruption involved in the case. Just one example of the many hundreds we have, is how witness evidence was manipulated to change the whole meaning of what was told to the Police and the Enquiries. In 1991, my cousin David Boutflour wrote a hand written statement for the C.O.L.P. Enquiry. He stated:

“Thought made some states in August but appear mistaken”[1]

 The typed version of the same statement said:

“Thought I may have made further statements but I may be mistaken”[2]

This evidence was manipulated to disguise the fact that David Boutflour made witness testimony before September, which has never been disclosed. There are a number of police documents making reference to many other witness statements, from a multitude of people, which apparently don’t exist.

Anyway “Matey” the truth is certainly now known by the CPS and the Defence and it will be in the Courts and the Public Arena very soon. I hope you and mum’s name will soon be cleared along with mine.

Are the senior Officers within Essex Police honest and true? That depends if they comply with the disclosure requests contained on our latest petition. Only time will tell. Thank you to everyone who has supported the petition for disclosure of all case documents including Human Rights Campaigner, Peter Tatchell. If you haven’t done so already please sign, as it will make all the difference in my continued fight for justice.

Jeremy

http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/29th-september-30-years-of-wrongful.html

Offline anglolawyer

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

What a bizarre way to describe this central part of the story.   Why wasn't Sheila going crazy with a gun the reason for calling the police?   The whole piece is decidedly odd IMO.   I notice also ties himself to the 3:36 timing.   

Offline sika

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

What a bizarre way to describe this central part of the story.   Why wasn't Sheila going crazy with a gun the reason for calling the police?   The whole piece is decidedly odd IMO.   I notice also ties himself to the 3:36 timing.   
Bizarre indeed! And totally transparent.

Offline Myster

What did he need "more information" for!!?  The (invented) call was clear as a bell - "Please come over, your sister has gone crazy and has the gun!"  In other words, "Get your a*s over here asap!!!"  No fiddling about with phone books needed. They've both dealt with Sheila's erratic behaviour on their own before apparently, and once at WHF what was to stop him waking the Foakes up to ask them to summon the police if he couldn't get in and things turned nasty, or even more creatively, sneaking in through the Shower room window as he admitted doing many times before?

And why should he want to clear his parents' names, when they were victims not perpetrators?  Absolutely crackers!
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline APRIL

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

What a bizarre way to describe this central part of the story.   Why wasn't Sheila going crazy with a gun the reason for calling the police?   The whole piece is decidedly odd IMO.   I notice also ties himself to the 3:36 timing.   

Hmm. He took the call SO seriously that he waited 30 mins to get through to a specific police station rather than call 999......................it also means he must have been bending Julie's "friendly ear" when, if he'd taken it as seriously as he maintains, he'd have been trying to get help.

Perhaps it should be noted that anyone making such a call -circa 3am- as Neville is alleged to have made IS going to sound scared/panicked/desperate. This urgency will be passed on to the listener. They will pick up on the callers fear and convey that fear when they call for assistance. Because the call only occurred in Jeremy's "script" he wasn't able to pick up on the feelings which would have been involved. It was only as an afterthought that he threw in to the police -as more of a reprimand for keeping him waiting than something he was desperate for them to know- that his father had sounded "panicked."

Offline Holly Goodhead

Evil killer Jeremy Bamber posts bizarre apology for 'failing to clear his name' to parents he massacred.



28 September 2015


The vile 54-year-old murdered five members of his family and was jailed 30 years ago.

Jeremy Bamber has marked 30 years behind bars by sharing a bizarre apology addressed to his parents who died by his hand.

Posted in a blog, the 54-year-old said he regrets not being able to clear his name and says he feels he let his parents down.

He massacred five members of his family in 1985 - his adoptive parents, his sister Sheila and her six-year-old twins - gunning his parents down at their farmhouse home.

Bamber said in his blog, posted from behind bars: "It feels so painful at times to know that I've let my mum and dad down so badly.

"Dad especially would be disappointed in me for having failed to prove my innocence and therefore cleared their names too within thirty years.

"I can hear his voice in my mind 'Thirty years Jem, you've had thirty years mate to sort this lot out'.

"I know people might think it odd that dad and I often called each other 'mate' - it was an in joke between us."

Bamber, now 54, added: "On the 6th August 1985 [the night of the murders] I went home leaving dad to collect the last trailer of rape seed from the combine at 10:00pm and leave it for me to tip and process in the morning and my last words to dad when I left that evening were 'Thanks mate I'll see you in the morning'.

"I said a good night to mum and Sheila and off I went."

But jury at Chelmsford Crown Court later decided that in spite of his denial, it was Jeremy who took a rifle and proceeded to shoot dead his adoptive parents Nevill and June Bamber, his sister Shelia "Bambi" Caffell and her twin six-old sons Nicholas and Benjamin.

Convicting Bamber, Mr Justice Drake described the young farmer as "evil beyond belief".

The slaughter at the family's remote farmhouse in the village of Tolleshunt D'Arcy, Essex rocked the small community and in spite of Bamber's efforts to have the case re-tried with claims of new evidence, he remains in Long Lartin jail.

In 1994 the then Home Secretary Michael Howard ruled that in Bamber's case, a "whole life" sentence should mean exactly that and that he will die in prison.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/evil-killer-jeremy-bamber-posts-6531547

If the journalist, John Shammas, is unable to get a victims name right what does it say about the quality of his reporting?  How can Daniel be mistaken for Benjamin?  Perhaps he had Trudi on his mind as in Trudi Benjamin? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

In a way, looking back now, I can see why dad’s call to me prompted my phone call to the police at 03:36am. The reason why I took his telephone call so seriously. I have always felt that it was because I’d tried to ring him back to find out more information and my getting the engaged signal each time I did so. Not being able to call dad back to speak to him may have been part of it, but subconsciously I’d have known it was serious due to him not using the term “Matey” during our short conversation.

What a bizarre way to describe this central part of the story.   Why wasn't Sheila going crazy with a gun the reason for calling the police?   The whole piece is decidedly odd IMO.   I notice also ties himself to the 3:36 timing.   

Where does "with" come from?

All initial WS's seem be along the lines of 'Sheilas gone crazy shes got the gun':

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5723.msg202984#msg202984

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

What did he need "more information" for!!?  The (invented) call was clear as a bell - "Please come over, your sister has gone crazy and has the gun!"  In other words, "Get your a*s over here asap!!!"  No fiddling about with phone books needed. They've both dealt with Sheila's erratic behaviour on their own before apparently, and once at WHF what was to stop him waking the Foakes up to ask them to summon the police if he couldn't get in and things turned nasty, or even more creatively, sneaking in through the Shower room window as he admitted doing many times before?

And why should he want to clear his parents' names, when they were victims not perpetrators?  Absolutely crackers!

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5723.msg202984#msg202984
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline anglolawyer

Where does "with" come from?

All initial WS's seem be along the lines of 'Sheilas gone crazy shes got the gun':

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5723.msg202984#msg202984
I was not quoting verbatim.   The sense is completely the same.   She has a gun, she has gone crazy.   She has gone crazy with the gun goes without saying.   What are you trying to achieve?   Are you implying that the message was not extremely urgent just because Neville did not use the word 'with' and that it was OK for Bamber to relax and forget about it given that, thanks goodness, at least Sheila was not going crazy with the gun for wouldn't that be truly awful and worth taking seriously?

Consider:

1 it was 3.00 a.m.
2 his sister was a paranoid schizophrenic
3 his parents and young nephews were in the house
4 she was unquestionably in possession of 'the gun'
5 the line went dead
6 he could not get through when trying to call back

But, not urgent because, thank goodness, Nevill did not use the word 'with'.   So that's alright then.

Offline Holly Goodhead

I was not quoting verbatim.   The sense is completely the same.   She has a gun, she has gone crazy.   She has gone crazy with the gun goes without saying.   What are you trying to achieve?   Are you implying that the message was not extremely urgent just because Neville did not use the word 'with' and that it was OK for Bamber to relax and forget about it given that, thanks goodness, at least Sheila was not going crazy with the gun for wouldn't that be truly awful and worth taking seriously?

Consider:

1 it was 3.00 a.m.
2 his sister was a paranoid schizophrenic
3 his parents and young nephews were in the house
4 she was unquestionably in possession of 'the gun'
5 the line went dead
6 he could not get through when trying to call back

But, not urgent because, thank goodness, Nevill did not use the word 'with'.   So that's alright then.

It's important to listen carefully to the exact words used.  All initial WS's state JB said NB said "SC's  gone crazy she's got the gun".  If you want to insert words, change words and add your own take then so be it.  According to NB/JB he didn't say she is threatening suicide or to use the gun on others or even ask JB to "Please come over".

It seems the only other account of SC in an altered state of mind is that of FE's.  Unfortunately we don't have his WS in our archives but most will be familiar with it.  He states that SC became a different person, ranting and raving, beating her fists against herself and a wall.  FE feared for everyone's safety and various people were called to remove firstly Chloe, the daughter of SC's friend, and secondly Daniel and Nicholas.  Doctors were called but SC refused to allow them to administer any medication fearing they were going to harm her.  NB was called but he said he was unable to attend until the following morning.  It seems NB had a relaxed approach to SC's altered state of mind.  FE didn't call the police although he feared for everyone's safety and NB did not arrive until the following morning.  NB was content to allow SC to remain in that state overnight until he personally drove her to a psychiatric hospital the following morning for weeks of in-patient care.

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

It's important to listen carefully to the exact words used.  All initial WS's state JB said NB said "SC's  gone crazy she's got the gun".  If you want to insert words, change words and add your own take then so be it.  According to NB/JB he didn't say she is threatening suicide or to use the gun on others or even ask JB to "Please come over".

It seems the only other account of SC in an altered state of mind is that of FE's.  Unfortunately we don't have his WS in our archives but most will be familiar with it.  He states that SC became a different person, ranting and raving, beating her fists against herself and a wall.  FE feared for everyone's safety and various people were called to remove firstly Chloe, the daughter of SC's friend, and secondly Daniel and Nicholas.  Doctors were called but SC refused to allow them to administer any medication fearing they were going to harm her.  NB was called but he said he was unable to attend until the following morning.  It seems NB had a relaxed approach to SC's altered state of mind.  FE didn't call the police although he feared for everyone's safety and NB did not arrive until the following morning.  NB was content to allow SC to remain in that state overnight until he personally drove her to a psychiatric hospital the following morning for weeks of in-patient care.

Also I don't recall any record of NB asking FE to remain with SC until he arrived the following morning.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline anglolawyer

It's important to listen carefully to the exact words used.  All initial WS's state JB said NB said "SC's  gone crazy she's got the gun".  If you want to insert words, change words and add your own take then so be it.  According to NB/JB he didn't say she is threatening suicide or to use the gun on others or even ask JB to "Please come over".

It seems the only other account of SC in an altered state of mind is that of FE's.  Unfortunately we don't have his WS in our archives but most will be familiar with it.  He states that SC became a different person, ranting and raving, beating her fists against herself and a wall.  FE feared for everyone's safety and various people were called to remove firstly Chloe, the daughter of SC's friend, and secondly Daniel and Nicholas.  Doctors were called but SC refused to allow them to administer any medication fearing they were going to harm her.  NB was called but he said he was unable to attend until the following morning.  It seems NB had a relaxed approach to SC's altered state of mind.  FE didn't call the police although he feared for everyone's safety and NB did not arrive until the following morning.  NB was content to allow SC to remain in that state overnight until he personally drove her to a psychiatric hospital the following morning for weeks of in-patient care.
And did she have a gun at the time, and was it the middle of the night?   Again, I think by equating two totally different situations, you are trying to minimise what Bamber did, or rather what he did not do.   I agree words are important but, as I said already, I was not quoting verbatim (which would be pretty difficult to do since nobody knows what Neville said except Bamber and he gave more than one version).

She's gone crazy, she has the gun
She's gone crazy with the gun

I agree these have slightly different meanings.   I don;t agree they aren't both extremely serious messages which demanded urgent, immediate action.   He told Ann Eaton he didn't think the message was that important.   Do you believe he said that?   If so, do you believe that's what he really thought?

ETA Who is FE and how do we know what is in his or her statement if it's not online?

Offline Holly Goodhead

And did she have a gun at the time, and was it the middle of the night?   Again, I think by equating two totally different situations, you are trying to minimise what Bamber did, or rather what he did not do.   I agree words are important but, as I said already, I was not quoting verbatim (which would be pretty difficult to do since nobody knows what Neville said except Bamber and he gave more than one version).

She's gone crazy, she has the gun
She's gone crazy with the gun

I agree these have slightly different meanings.   I don;t agree they aren't both extremely serious messages which demanded urgent, immediate action.   He told Ann Eaton he didn't think the message was that important.   Do you believe he said that?   If so, do you believe that's what he really thought?

ETA Who is FE and how do we know what is in his or her statement if it's not online?

Why are they "two totally different situations"?

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline anglolawyer

Why are they "two totally different situations"?
The answer is in my post.   In one of them she had a gun in the middle of the night and had gone crazy.   In the other she didn't.   Surely you can see a difference there, can't you, or you seriously saying you would be equally calm/perturbed by a not very strong, female schizophrenic having an episode in which they were lethally armed or not armed?   The difference is too obvious to be worth spelling out but I will anyway, in one case you have a distressing, embarrassing and/or awkward situation to deal with while in the other, you are in mortal danger.   To me, those two things are 'totally different'.
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