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Offline G-Unit

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2015, 11:31:05 PM »
Perhaps they thought that he would be unable to appeal because all his funds were frozen, so they thought it was over. The funds raised have affected the court case by allowing Amaral to pay the fees and a lawyer and file his appeal. So the saga continues and the money is not yet in their hands. Of course that doesn't matter because it was never about the money, It was about the damage caused to the search and the libel of the children. Wait though....neither of those points were proved, so no money was awarded for either of those.

Perhaps the McCanns ought to research the internet. They might find that there are people who know as much if not more than them about the case. People have learned and decided what they think for themselves, rather than just believing what they have been told.

If the lost links to the site have anything to do with Team McCann (and there is nothing to say they have) the stable door closing is too late, the horse is miles away. The result will be that the link will be shared all over and the loss of the links will be publicised and more donations may result just because people feel they could be being manipulated.
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Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2015, 11:41:39 PM »
Perhaps they thought that he would be unable to appeal because all his funds were frozen, so they thought it was over. The funds raised have affected the court case by allowing Amaral to pay the fees and a lawyer and file his appeal. So the saga continues and the money is not yet in their hands. Of course that doesn't matter because it was never about the money, It was about the damage caused to the search and the libel of the children. Wait though....neither of those points were proved, so no money was awarded for either of those.

Perhaps the McCanns ought to research the internet. They might find that there are people who know as much if not more than them about the case. People have learned and decided what they think for themselves, rather than just believing what they have been told.

If the lost links to the site have anything to do with Team McCann (and there is nothing to say they have) the stable door closing is too late, the horse is miles away. The result will be that the link will be shared all over and the loss of the links will be publicised and more donations may result just because people feel they could be being manipulated.

I'm sure the holders of the account are expecting more donations before the verdict is announced.
Do you know who the holders of the GFM account are?

Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2015, 11:45:34 PM »
Perhaps they thought that he would be unable to appeal because all his funds were frozen, so they thought it was over. The funds raised have affected the court case by allowing Amaral to pay the fees and a lawyer and file his appeal. So the saga continues and the money is not yet in their hands. Of course that doesn't matter because it was never about the money, It was about the damage caused to the search and the libel of the children. Wait though....neither of those points were proved, so no money was awarded for either of those.

Perhaps the McCanns ought to research the internet. They might find that there are people who know as much if not more than them about the case. People have learned and decided what they think for themselves, rather than just believing what they have been told.

If the lost links to the site have anything to do with Team McCann (and there is nothing to say they have) the stable door closing is too late, the horse is miles away. The result will be that the link will be shared all over and the loss of the links will be publicised and more donations may result just because people feel they could be being manipulated.
There is a test that can be done - find any other gfm appeals which are not "facebook-verified" and check if they contain "no index".
As you say G-Unit the horse is miles in front - ironically the disappearance from google directly increased donations. 

Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #63 on: October 08, 2015, 01:05:45 AM »
I have checked another gfm appeal which is "not facebook verified" and it too has the "no index" instruction (so it gets no direct links on search engines). Therefore this policy is not specific to the amaral gfm appeal. IMO it is applied generally to all appeals there which are not facebook verified. No conspiracy.

Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2015, 01:26:12 AM »
I have checked another gfm appeal which is "not facebook verified" and it too has the "no index" instruction (so it gets no direct links on search engines). Therefore this policy is not specific to the amaral gfm appeal. IMO it is applied generally to all appeals there which are not facebook verified. No conspiracy.

May I ask
a) the name of the appeal
b) how you found it

Offline John

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2015, 01:50:09 AM »
I have checked another gfm appeal which is "not facebook verified" and it too has the "no index" instruction (so it gets no direct links on search engines). Therefore this policy is not specific to the amaral gfm appeal. IMO it is applied generally to all appeals there which are not facebook verified. No conspiracy.

That's correct.  Under GoFundMe rules, an appeal will not show up in any search engine unless it has a facebook account attached.  The moment Leanne Baulch removed her facebook account from the appeal the search engine facility was withdrawn.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 02:03:04 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2015, 01:54:12 AM »
May I ask
a) the name of the appeal
b) how you found it
Google "not facebook verified" (in quotes). Scroll down the search results and eventually you will find some "donate" pages (these donate pages are indexed even though the corresponding main appeal pages are not).

As I said, there is no anti-Amaral conspiracy here, all nfv appeals are treated equally.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 01:56:41 AM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2015, 02:10:08 AM »
Google "not facebook verified" (in quotes). Scroll down the search results and eventually you will find some "donate" pages (these donate pages are indexed even though the corresponding main appeal pages are not).

As I said, there is no anti-Amaral conspiracy here, all nfv appeals are treated equally.

"not facebook verified" donate to gofundme

I've googled the above & the first 6 non-verified accounts do not have the  meta name robot text on the source data page.


Offline John

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2015, 02:22:24 AM »
There appears to be a lack of transparency with this appeal since it was handed over to Projecto Justice Goncalo Amaral by Leanne Baulch.  I believe the questions which should be being asked are...

1. Why did the appeal originator Leanne Baulch feel the need to hand over control to a third party?

2. Who specifically now has control of this appeal and the funds attached to it?

3. Why is there now a lack of transparency with this appeal?  One would have thought that with a sum exceeding £50,000 being handed over, the odd update is not too much to ask for.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 02:25:44 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2015, 02:41:33 AM »
There appears to be a lack of transparency with this appeal since it was handed over to Projecto Justice Goncalo Amaral by Leanne Baulch.  I believe the questions which should be being asked are...

1. Why did the appeal originator Leanne Baulch feel the need to hand over control to a third party?

2. Who specifically now has control of this appeal and the funds attached to it?

3. Why is there now a lack of transparency with this appeal?  One would have thought that with a sum exceeding £50,000 being handed over, the odd update is not too much to ask for.


Those questions, and a few others, have already been raised on Twitter & Leanne was not at all forthcoming. Last night a tweeter claimed he had emailed GFM on these very issues, but nothing more has been said today.
The Stripe account cannot have been transferred to someone in Portugal as Stripe is not supported there.
There are issues with GFM itself, if you google GoFundMe reviews/scams you will see that people have problems with obtaining donations into funds.
I'm not in the least bothered about people donating to Amaral, as long as his lawyers are seeing the money as per PJGA. I'd just hate to see the McCanns blamed (yet again) if this account turns out to be less than honest.

Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2015, 02:53:02 AM »
"not facebook verified" donate to gofundme

I've googled the above & the first 6 non-verified accounts do not have the  meta name robot text on the source data page.
Those payment pages don't have the "no index".
But remove "/donate" from the web addresses to see the appeal pages, which do have the "no index, same as the Amaral appeal.

Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2015, 03:09:37 AM »
Those payment pages don't have the "no index".
But remove "/donate" from the web addresses to see the appeal pages, which do have the "no index, same as the Amaral appeal.

OK. yes, first one I checked doing that produced "no index".
https://www.gofundme.com/owyldc
BUT......
1) The appeal request is in dollars but the location is London (Kensington/Chelsea)
2) See what happens when you click on the "alternate ways to donate" link.

Is it a genuine appeal. or have GFM removed it?

stephen25000

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Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2015, 07:21:26 AM »
OK. yes, first one I checked doing that produced "no index".
https://www.gofundme.com/owyldc
BUT......
1) The appeal request is in dollars but the location is London (Kensington/Chelsea)
2) See what happens when you click on the "alternate ways to donate" link.

Is it a genuine appeal. or have GFM removed it?


Hardly difficult to find.



http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/gofundme-page-donations.html


and I gave that link yesterday.

Offline carlymichelle

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2015, 08:21:43 AM »

Hardly difficult to find.



http://pjga.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/gofundme-page-donations.html


and I gave that link yesterday.

the mcanns and  mcann supporters seem stiff scared of  the fund for GA  and you have to ask why?? why is it ok for the mcanns to havea  court/legal fund and not ga??

Offline Eleanor

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2015, 08:26:43 AM »

I do not believe for a second that Amaral would have been unable to Appeal without this Fund.