Author Topic: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.  (Read 51207 times)

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Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #135 on: October 09, 2015, 01:53:02 AM »
If you think there is any impropriety whatsoever Misty you can ask gfm about it by clicking the same envelope symbol.

Do you think they'll breach the data protection act by giving me the name of the account holder (who cannot be in Portugal)?

Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #136 on: October 09, 2015, 03:15:12 AM »
Do you think they'll breach the data protection act by giving me the name of the account holder (who cannot be in Portugal)?
Click on the envelope symbol and you can immediately contact the appeal organiser and ask questions, or contact gfm to ask questions about the appeal, or report to gfm any suspicions whatsoever you have about the appeal.

Does the MFLNSUL website give you those options?

Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #137 on: October 09, 2015, 12:57:35 PM »
Click on the envelope symbol and you can immediately contact the appeal organiser and ask questions, or contact gfm to ask questions about the appeal, or report to gfm any suspicions whatsoever you have about the appeal.

Does the MFLNSUL website give you those options?

The MFLNSUL website has the company address and a telephone number for the investigation on it.
What does PJGA have? (I assume the original lawyer contact & the fund have long since parted company)

Offline misty

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #138 on: October 09, 2015, 05:12:27 PM »
Extracts from replies made by GFM to my emails, which commenced with me asking for the name of the country in which the account was held for receiving donations via GFM:-


 "Unfortunately, we are unable to disclose any information regarding where the account-holder is processing the donations without the Campaign Organizer's permission.


Do you happen to have a link to the campaign?


If you believe someone is committing fraud or breaking the law in any other way, please report the campaign to our Trust & Safety Team by following these steps "
                                         --------------------------------------------------------------




"Yuliya stepped away, but I can
jump in to help.

With thousands of campaigns being created on GoFundMe every
day, there is no way for us to guarantee the validity of every single campaign,
or note when the Campaign Organizer changes. Whenever you make a donation to a
Personal campaign, like the one you are referring to, the funds are made
available to the account holder directly. As such, we must always recommend that
you only donate to people you know and trust."
                            -----------------------------------------------------

"Hi Madison
Following on from that, is it not the policy of GoFundMe to check the
credentials of anyone taking over from the campaigner of an existing appeal?"
                             -----------------------------------------------------

"I can assure we keep an eye on account transfers, but if you believe someone is committing fraud or breaking the law in any other way, please report the campaign to our Trust & Safety Team by following these steps:  "

                            -------------------------------------------------------

So, it appears that whilst GFM are quite happy to allow their banner to continue being displayed behind a campaign which has changed hands since its inception, they take no responsibility whatsoever for checking the credentials of the new account holder. The appeals page has no reference to the original Facebook Verified campaign organiser and GFM makes no statement to ensure people are made aware that changes have been made.


Offline pegasus

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #139 on: October 10, 2015, 03:11:13 AM »
But Misty gfm have told you if you have any suspicion of fraud you should report it to them immediately and they will investigate. For example, let's say you have evidence that some of the money has been used not for the stated aim (legal expenses) but has instead been used to pay two mortgage payments on someone's private residence,  tell them and they will investigate.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2015, 03:14:22 AM by pegasus »

Offline Montclair

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #140 on: October 10, 2015, 09:59:25 AM »
What important issue would that be?

Don't lose sleep over it, night night

The important issue for some people is that the fund made too much money for their liking.

stephen25000

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Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #141 on: October 10, 2015, 10:06:25 AM »
The important issue for some people is that the fund made too much money for their liking.

Yes Montclair, that is what the mccanns and their supporters worry about.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #142 on: October 10, 2015, 10:25:04 AM »
Yes Montclair, that is what the mccanns and their supporters worry about.

you haven't got a clue what concerns me or others...you just imagine you do

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #143 on: October 10, 2015, 10:26:57 AM »
you haven't got a clue what concerns me or others...you just imagine you do

Dream on.

You have made your views on Amaral crystal clear.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #144 on: October 10, 2015, 10:28:51 AM »
Dream on.

You have made your views on Amaral crystal clear.

he's a disgraced cop...end of...I'm totally bored with the trial but may regain some interest if anything happens over the next year

stephen25000

  • Guest
Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #145 on: October 10, 2015, 10:43:36 AM »
he's a disgraced cop...end of...I'm totally bored with the trial but may regain some interest if anything happens over the next year

A cop, whose basic theory of accidental death, has not been disproved.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #146 on: October 10, 2015, 11:10:04 AM »
A cop, whose basic theory of accidental death, has not been disproved.

neither has abduction by aliens

Offline slartibartfast

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #147 on: October 10, 2015, 11:27:53 AM »
neither has abduction by aliens

You think they are both as likely?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Brietta

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #148 on: October 10, 2015, 11:31:30 AM »

Can anyone explain rationally ... when there appeared to be a glitch in Mr Amaral's appeal for money ... it was immediately portrayed by some as being directly linked to the people in Madeleine McCann's campaign.

Seems to smack of paranoia to me.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline slartibartfast

Re: GoFundMe removes search link to Goncalo Amaral legal defence fund page.
« Reply #149 on: October 10, 2015, 11:34:40 AM »
Can anyone explain rationally ... when there appeared to be a glitch in Mr Amaral's appeal for money ... it was immediately portrayed by some as being directly linked to the people in Madeleine McCann's campaign.

Didn't appear like that to me? Seemed to be certain members implying the Fund was dodgy and GFM was doing something about it.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.